why does the MG36 suck so bad?

[imported_youm0nt]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

Rpk > Mg36 > Pkm > M249

What happened to the Type 95?

[Lazza66]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

i've tried this weapon out extensively...

i find it kicks too much, i try doing 2-3 rd burst with it, try using the sights and without the sights from all distances.. I find overall it is a piece of crap. I get killed all the time even after hosing the enemy with 30 rounds.

i like the pkm because you don't even need the sights, and a few small bursts dispatches the enemy.

anyone else think the mg36 is a dud?

The MG36 has an "added max deviation per shot" of 10.
Others here who say the RPK is best support weapon are right, it's max added deviation is the smallest at only 1.1.

Excluding Euro Forces, the next worst support guns (after the MG36) have only 2.5 max added deviation.

[dnomyar0]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

What happened to the Type 95?

O that is not even included on my scale :)
It's not worth it to use it, might as well tk someone for their kit

The MG36 has an "added max deviation per shot" of 10.
Others here who say the RPK is best support weapon are right, it's max added deviation is the smallest at only 1.1.

Excluding Euro Forces, the next worst support guns (after the MG36) have only 2.5 max added deviation.

Hmm I noticed that...
But what exactly is the definition of "added max deviation per shot"? I don't understand how the numbers scale up.

[AlexIsUber]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

mg36 does horrible damage....i don't know what you guys are smoking

[Lazza66]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

O that is not even included on my scale :)
It's not worth it to use it, might as well tk someone for their kit



Hmm I noticed that...
But what exactly is the definition of "added max deviation per shot"? I don't understand how the numbers scale up.

When on full auto the game uses a math formula to add inaccuracy (deviation) to each subsequent shot. The max possible deviation on of 10 on the MG36 is just terrible.

"Deviation Added per Shot: Another modifier, this number is added Base Deviation for each additional shot beyond the first in a given time period, and is cumulative up to the (maximum) in parentheses. For best accuracy, a slight pause between shots is recommended, as this pause “resets” the Deviation per Shot."

From...

http://wiki.bf2s.com/weapons/comparison

[Noble Rotter]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

I'm with Lazza66 here. The MG36 is pretty awful for ranged shots, in CQC its OK and better than the SAW. And the reticle is off center with the MG36 which explains why so many people miss shots with it. The RPK-74 has the best balance of firepower, fire rate and accurancy. If I'm playing USMC on a map with no unlocks I'll always try to pick the AK-74 up off a dead MEC support. The PKM is a nasty GPM if you know how to use it properly, you can't spam it except in CQC.

[ACE_FIN1972]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

I haven't tried that gun almost at all. RPK and PKM are my standard weapons as an support. Just out of curiousity, I tried it last night. Result; 24-6 at Dragon Valley, works for me. No complaints here. Love the sound of it :)

[Yezo]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

I haven't tried that gun almost at all. RPK and PKM are my standard weapons as an support. Just out of curiousity, I tried it last night. Result; 24-6 at Dragon Valley, works for me. No complaints here. Love the sound of it :)

Thats no real proof. You need IO, No vehicles, No Grenades, No pistols to show the weapons effectiveness. Who's to say you didn't use any of the 2 jets parked on the USMC carrier or Refinery? Who's to say none of those kills are from TOWs, AA Emplacements, Tanks, Vehicles, Grenades, Pistols, etc.

[ACE_FIN1972]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

^^^
Then what would be the point of my post?

Ok, lets say it was Dragon, inf only. No, no, I have new memories here, it was Karkand inf. only. No, wait, to really prove my point, now I remember. I was Jalalabad inf only and I was so busy killing people that I run out of grenades in the beginning of the round. All my kills were support players. Does this make you any more confident about my observation?

[LifeCrysis]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

Its all personnal preference.

Frankly, I like this weapon. Where as I use to be an avid pkm picker.

[klown]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

IMO the PKM sucks, I don't remember having a killing spree with it. But I did so many kills with the MG36, it's very accurate and good at any ranges.


maybe u guys just suck big time.

[Spik3d]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

Thats no real proof. You need IO, No vehicles, No Grenades, No pistols to show the weapons effectiveness. Who's to say you didn't use any of the 2 jets parked on the USMC carrier or Refinery? Who's to say none of those kills are from TOWs, AA Emplacements, Tanks, Vehicles, Grenades, Pistols, etc.

No, you look at the weapon's statistics. If you're smart enough you can tell which is better.

Some people are better with 'weapon x' while others are better with 'weapon y'. Just because 'person a' no good with 'weapon z'; that doesn't mean it sucks and that 'weapon x' is so much better.

[Rob848]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

IMO the PKM sucks, I don't remember having a killing spree with it. But I did so many kills with the MG36, it's very accurate and good at any ranges.


maybe u guys just suck big time.

What kind of argument is that? Maybe you just suck with the PKM, idiot.

[Noble Rotter]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

IMO the PKM sucks, I don't remember having a killing spree with it. But I did so many kills with the MG36, it's very accurate and good at any ranges.

Or maybe you were having some bad rounds with the PKM? And good ones with MG36? Technically the PKM is the better GPM thanks to its stopping power and way better bullet deviation, 0.1(2.5) versus the MG36's 0.1(10). At long range (and mid range for the unskilled) the MG36 sucks unless you're snapping single shots, otherwise the awful deviation kicks in.

I don't understand why people don't like the PKM. Iron sight too chunky for you? Can't hose an emeny squad with a long burst because of its slow fire rate? These are its quirks, if you adapt and learn how to use the PKM you can cause some serious damage with it. Short 1, 2 or 3 bullet bursts are its forte.

But likewise one can argue the merits of the MG36 once you're adapted it. It does have a very good fire rate, stopping power is almost as good as the RPK, has good sights, and a fast reload time. I suppose these would factor out the main negative element of using the MG36, high bullet deviation. In the end it's all horses for courses....use whatever you feel works for you.

[Lazza66]

Re: why does the MG36 suck so bad?

IMO the PKM sucks, I don't remember having a killing spree with it. But I did so many kills with the MG36, it's very accurate and good at any ranges.


maybe u guys just suck big time.

I baseraped a server full of noobs with an F35 and went 65-0, my best jet kdr ever. Clearly the F35 is the best jet in the game, and anyone who says otherwise simply just sucks - big time.