The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

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  • autowolf

    #76
    Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

    Originally posted by Neptune
    sssseriously, it seems as if all the good gunners have spontaneously combusted. You fly now, and you can't trust your gunner or pilot to do anything right anymore. Its always the newbs that happen to get into the helis, and worse yet there tag-teaming with a newbie too. On very rare occasions, you get someone that knows atleast what there doing flying with you.

    Some people have hit 50k mark yet to realize you can guide the tv missiles. I find myself literally screaming at my monitor, until someone tells me to shut up. Lucky i dont have a mic (dont think im a weirdo, im game angry, not real-life angry). Im a captain. This is what i think now, and im no more than an average gunner/pilot.

    Now lets go back to when i was a staff sergeant. I was new to this pilot/gunner teamwork stuff, and i was amazed at how well people can fly the helo. I wasn't an idiot, and i quickly found out that you can guide the tv missile. I seemed to dissapoint a lot of people with my gunning/piloting skills, but nonetheless i had fun.

    Its times like these we remember whats fun. The more you rank up pubbing, the more this "fun" is taken away from you. When you suck, your having a "blast", if you will. When your a pro, noobs just anger you. Im a well above average rank, my silver gleam stands out in the lineup of bronze ranks. My point is that the game is really less enjoyable the more you rank up. The good gunners arent going anywhere, its just that the more you play the less good these good gunners are.

    So i went soloing yesterday, for my first successful time on Dalian. Stupid enemy helicopter pairs didn't even hunt me down. I Came first in that round, and i had a lot of fun. Scored over 20 kills. Im telling you right now, im more help for the team soloing and knowing what im doing then letting a sergeant in and taking pointless unguided shots at helis. So what? Helping the team = your team doesnt get raped. Team doesnt get raped = your team can win. team winning = fun. Fun = the point of this god damn game.

    So i wish all you redliners and soloers good luck out there, keep up the good work.


    teamwinning=fun except for that guy you wont give the chance to gun because you want to solo this isnt real war, some people play this game for the chopers and when closed minded soloers get in them those people cant have fun. I hope to god they get rid of the switch seat if there is ever another patch.

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    • Monkmonkman
      Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 582

      #77
      Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

      Originally posted by autowolf
      teamwinning=fun except for that guy you wont give the chance to gun because you want to solo this isnt real war, some people play this game for the chopers and when closed minded soloers get in them those people cant have fun. I hope to god they get rid of the switch seat if there is ever another patch.
      It's a skill that will never be removed because

      1.)Would ruin competitive play.
      2.)DICE does not know how to code it.

      It will NEVER be removed.

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      • vitaminR

        #78
        Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

        If they ever get rid of the ability to seat switch, you will see the attack choppers just sitting there like the transports.

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        • Jay-C_2142

          #79
          Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

          Originally posted by Dairuka
          Solo'ers do not equal Redliners, Teamkillers and Jerks in general. Those of you who consider them one in the same are the ones with the wrong way of thinking.
          sigged for truth!

          It's just a shame that more people don't realise this. I do none of the above but still get called all the names under the sun. Now i just put it down to jealously, crap gunners pissed off they aren't as good as you so choose to insult you rather than play singleplayer for a few hours, or learn what a tv guided missle is

          i don't play this game to give a lazy cnut a gunning tutorial everytime i jump in a heli, like stated earlier by yourself, i play for my personal fun and not the average pubber whom i've never met.

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          • [n00b]Tyler

            #80
            Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

            Solo pilot.

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            • imported_Slashiem
              Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 118

              #81
              Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

              i generally like going in choppers as it is much slower paced in jets and if u lagg u dont end up in crsahing into a side of the hill if ur in a jet, but yeah i see what u mean about rubbish people in the gunner seat but when we get shot down because he doesnt know what the tv missile was. but really i can remember what i was like in the first time in chopper like i didnt not how to use the tv missle and got shot down straight away then the the pilot who i can remember because later when i got more experienced i talked to him with a mic, and he shooted abuse at me and soon enough i gave up with it and just forgot about choppers and jets and then my internet wasnt working and played on single player and practiced soloing in the chopper and then moved onto online servers and got kinda better from there, but i cant gun when i have a high ping because it just laggs so much and the TV is so no ressponsive

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              • FerociouS

                #82
                Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

                Originally posted by Neptune
                sssseriously, it seems as if all the good gunners have spontaneously combusted. You fly now, and you can't trust your gunner or pilot to do anything right anymore. Its always the newbs that happen to get into the helis, and worse yet there tag-teaming with a newbie too. On very rare occasions, you get someone that knows atleast what there doing flying with you.

                Some people have hit 50k mark yet to realize you can guide the tv missiles. I find myself literally screaming at my monitor, until someone tells me to shut up. Lucky i dont have a mic (dont think im a weirdo, im game angry, not real-life angry). Im a captain. This is what i think now, and im no more than an average gunner/pilot.

                Now lets go back to when i was a staff sergeant. I was new to this pilot/gunner teamwork stuff, and i was amazed at how well people can fly the helo. I wasn't an idiot, and i quickly found out that you can guide the tv missile. I seemed to dissapoint a lot of people with my gunning/piloting skills, but nonetheless i had fun.

                Its times like these we remember whats fun. The more you rank up pubbing, the more this "fun" is taken away from you. When you suck, your having a "blast", if you will. When your a pro, noobs just anger you. Im a well above average rank, my silver gleam stands out in the lineup of bronze ranks. My point is that the game is really less enjoyable the more you rank up. The good gunners arent going anywhere, its just that the more you play the less good these good gunners are.

                So i went soloing yesterday, for my first successful time on Dalian. Stupid enemy helicopter pairs didn't even hunt me down. I Came first in that round, and i had a lot of fun. Scored over 20 kills. Im telling you right now, im more help for the team soloing and knowing what im doing then letting a sergeant in and taking pointless unguided shots at helis. So what? Helping the team = your team doesnt get raped. Team doesnt get raped = your team can win. team winning = fun. Fun = the point of this god damn game.

                So i wish all you redliners and soloers good luck out there, keep up the good work.

                I totally agree with you, i just hate it when i am Pilot and a total retard gets in the Gunner seat, i tell him to get out, he doesnt, then i ask him, if he knows how to gun, he says yes, and if fact he doesnt even know what the hells hes doing.
                The worse ones are when you line them up for a TV on a Tank, and they try taking out a Fully Healthy with the cannon, just pisses me off, then we get killed becuase he didnt shoot something when he should have and they have the cheek to blame you for your flying, lol.
                So nowadays i just M95 them out or if im not in a rush just redzone them.

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                • AlphaCueUp

                  #83
                  Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

                  Originally posted by dynawideglide
                  Uuuuuuuuuuuuh.......OK. My point was intended to be teaching an inexperienced gunner rather than giving up and just soloing. May I suggest some anger management classes?

                  *puts on flame retardant suit and holds fingers in peace sign*



                  well if thats your point, then OBVIOUSLY that post was not speaking about you....may i suggest assumption management classes? :p

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                  • ham_411

                    #84
                    Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

                    Originally posted by FerociouS
                    I totally agree with you, i just hate it when i am Pilot and a total retard gets in the Gunner seat, i tell him to get out, he doesnt, then i ask him, if he knows how to gun, he says yes, and if fact he doesnt even know what the hells hes doing.
                    The worse ones are when you line them up for a TV on a Tank, and they try taking out a Fully Healthy with the cannon, just pisses me off, then we get killed becuase he didnt shoot something when he should have and they have the cheek to blame you for your flying, lol.
                    So nowadays i just M95 them out or if im not in a rush just redzone them.
                    I totally disagree with you, i just hate it when some @$$ hole in a heli thinks he is better than everyone else. i can gun, and have spent a couple of hours in a LAN to learn, but this doesn't mean that ill hit everytime because the factors such as ping and your target knows what hes doing. so being a prik and redlining is just SAD! its a game. its not like you lose your life when you "die".

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                    • Megahurtz

                      #85
                      Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

                      thats your fault for being a newbie online.
                      So you never went online and into a helicopter once until you could fly like you do now?

                      I agree with you in not waiting around for a gunner, but if a n00b gets in with you, type "Join sqaud X X-man" if they dont invite them. If they dont just do your thign like you would be soloing, let them just practice, wit your help or not!

                      A$$ hole!

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                      • Moke

                        #86
                        Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

                        And ppl wonder why IO servers have gotten to be popular

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                        • zacman13245

                          #87
                          Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

                          very true

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                          • Sars99
                            Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 1708

                            #88
                            Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

                            can someone tell me how to teach people???

                            the other day on wake i had a guy piloting me, i invited him into my squad, he then started to go and cap a flag, after i'd pointed out the enme chopper

                            so we die

                            he flys again, i tell him to get height, and nothing, he does the same crap again

                            right so i'll fly, line up with TV on a tank, and... missed, ok lag. bring us around same again, he then gives up and starts with the chaingun. at which point i'm just thinking why i'm bothering i could have taken out the tank + helo and some more stuff had i been soloing

                            any tips on teaching coz i swear i dont get heard

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                            • ACE_FIN1972

                              #89
                              Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

                              Choose some easy targets like stationary tanks and APCs. First, take your gunner close to targets. Some successful hits makes wonders for most of the people...Okay there are people beyond teaching, don't waste your time with those.
                              Communication is the key. If they respond or show some improvement within time, just be patient and make it easy to them. After while keep some more distance while pointing the targets. You can't expect them learning in minutes, but after half an hour basic shots should be easy.

                              That's how I do it. (When I'm in the mood, if not I'll leave him there and grab my sniper rifle and head to the forest)

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                              • GorillaWar1

                                #90
                                Re: The Truth Behind the Lack of Good Gunners

                                The reason you don't have good gunners anymore is because pubbing has been dead for months now. All I do now is scrim in 8v8s and 2v2s.

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