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  • Chris_Redfield
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 5986

    #16
    Re: Jet's con and pros

    Originally posted by zipp0r
    i take it you dont know how to get the su34 to dodge missiles like an f18 does then amatuers :laugh:
    Hitbox the size of your mommas ***, slow bomber-like maneuverability = cannoned out of the skies! :p

    Su-30 is on par with fighters, just that its farking huge and takes cannon rounds with ease.

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    • zipp0r

      #17
      Re: Jet's con and pros

      Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
      Hitbox the size of your mommas ***, slow bomber-like maneuverability = cannoned out of the skies! :p

      Su-30 is on par with fighters, just that its farking huge and takes cannon rounds with ease.
      funny, i dont think ive EVER been cannoned down in the su34 whilst trying to loose another jet. only the tweaked missles make it killable, but even they can be dodged repeatedly.

      su30 is fast, but it can be hit by missiles easily, which makes it crap.

      i swear some people here are saying some jets are good, because they've had no real competition when they owned some nubs with them.
      the pair of you stood out appearing to be hot pilots, but im not so sure now :hmm:

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      • XmetallicaXguitarstX
        Member
        • Jul 2006
        • 3014

        #18
        Re: Jet's con and pros

        Originally posted by zipp0r
        i take it you dont know how to get the su34 to dodge missiles like an f18 does then amatuers :laugh:

        uhh.. yeah while you are doing your little inverted loop I will be cannoning your ***.

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        • zipp0r

          #19
          Re: Jet's con and pros

          Originally posted by metallicaguitrst
          uhh.. yeah while you are doing your little inverted loop I will be cannoning your ***.
          ahah yea

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          • XmetallicaXguitarstX
            Member
            • Jul 2006
            • 3014

            #20
            Re: Jet's con and pros

            Originally posted by zipp0r
            i swear some people here are saying some jets are good, because they've had no real competition when they owned some nubs with them.
            the pair of you stood out appearing to be hot pilots, but im not so sure now :hmm:
            Me?


            I don't just pub so I don't know what you're talking about.. BF2C has some of the best pilots and groundpounders in BF2, if not the best as a whole.

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            • Chris_Redfield
              Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 5986

              #21
              Re: Jet's con and pros

              Originally posted by zipp0r
              funny, i dont think ive EVER been cannoned down in the su34 whilst trying to loose another jet. only the tweaked missles make it killable, but even they can be dodged repeatedly.

              su30 is fast, but it can be hit by missiles easily, which makes it crap.

              i swear some people here are saying some jets are good, because they've had no real competition when they owned some nubs with them.
              the pair of you stood out appearing to be hot pilots, but im not so sure now :hmm:
              Im sorry, but if youve had pilots who dont know how to use cannons, then you have flying with the wrong bunch. Even with F35B, its possible to have a VERY good cannon shot at the Su-34 at least once in every turn. And cannoning that sh!t is so easy, that you dont even have to use lagshooting with 150 ms ping! Whereas for example J10, or the MiG, F18, finding that soft spot that hits with that high ping, is still a mystery to me.

              If youre judging a jet by its capability of dodging missiles only, then its a rather poor quality to judge by. I can understand when were talking about F18 and J10, which dont require a special move to ditch the missiles. But if youre putting yourself into an inverted loop? Comeon. Take an F18, and youll get a cannon shot throughout the whole loop, and by the end of it youre dead, or switching turns, thats when missiles start flying.

              Su-34 is a competitor to F15 and F35B, the two worst jets in the game. I would say SU-34 and F35B is a fair fight tough.

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              • zipp0r

                #22
                Re: Jet's con and pros

                Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
                Im sorry, but if youve had pilots who dont know how to use cannons, then you have flying with the wrong bunch. Even with F35B, its possible to have a VERY good cannon shot at the Su-34 at least once in every turn. And cannoning that sh!t is so easy, that you dont even have to use lagshooting with 150 ms ping! Whereas for example J10, or the MiG, F18, finding that soft spot that hits with that high ping, is still a mystery to me.

                If youre judging a jet by its capability of dodging missiles only, then its a rather poor quality to judge by. I can understand when were talking about F18 and J10, which dont require a special move to ditch the missiles. But if youre putting yourself into an inverted loop? Comeon. Take an F18, and youll get a cannon shot throughout the whole loop, and by the end of it youre dead, or switching turns, thats when missiles start flying.

                Su-34 is a competitor to F15 and F35B, the two worst jets in the game. I would say SU-34 and F35B is a fair fight tough.
                i wouldnt say its a poor thing to judge on because how is a plane good if its an easy target for missiles? and ive had many of the pilots in the top100 chase me and none have cannoned me down, why? because cannons are easy to avoid :laugh: so dont comeon me who knows exactly what hes doing in a plane. :laugh:

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                • Chris_Redfield
                  Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 5986

                  #23
                  Re: Jet's con and pros

                  Im pretty sure all of the TOP 100 pilots are great dogfighters that know what they are doing. I salute to your 1337 skill of avoiding fire from people who arent probably motivated to chase you further than one turn.

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                  • zipp0r

                    #24
                    Re: Jet's con and pros

                    Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
                    Im pretty sure all of the TOP 100 pilots are great dogfighters that know what they are doing. I salute to your 1337 skill of avoiding fire from people who arent probably motivated to chase you further than one turn.
                    they try alot longer than that, many of them are right persistant bastards

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                    • XmetallicaXguitarstX
                      Member
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 3014

                      #25
                      Re: Jet's con and pros

                      LOL Well the moves that "avoid cannon fire" are moves that will get you raped by A2A missles.

                      If you just pull all the way, you can eventually get cannoned.

                      Doing a simple barrel roll is hard to hit with cannons (you would have to do the barrel roll and follow), but that will get you killed by missles so fast.

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                      • zipp0r

                        #26
                        Re: Jet's con and pros

                        Originally posted by metallicaguitrst
                        LOL Well the moves that "avoid cannon fire" are moves that will get you raped by A2A missles.

                        If you just pull all the way, you can eventually get cannoned.

                        Doing a simple barrel roll is hard to hit with cannons (you would have to do the barrel roll and follow), but that will get you killed by missles so fast.
                        but they have no missiles left.......

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                        • XmetallicaXguitarstX
                          Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3014

                          #27
                          Re: Jet's con and pros

                          Originally posted by zipp0r
                          but they have no missiles left.......
                          Well only a missle spammer would have no missles left. I try to only shoot missles when I know they will hit.

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                          • zipp0r

                            #28
                            Re: Jet's con and pros

                            Originally posted by metallicaguitrst
                            Well only a missle spammer would have no missles left. I try to only shoot missles when I know they will hit.
                            well they think that too. in practice it doesnt work.
                            is your mind changed on that plane yet? gone to play with it?

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                            • XmetallicaXguitarstX
                              Member
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 3014

                              #29
                              Re: Jet's con and pros

                              Originally posted by zipp0r
                              well they think that too. in practice it doesnt work.
                              is your mind changed on that plane yet? gone to play with it?
                              SU-34? It sucks balls... SU-30 is a billion times better. F-15 is the worst of all of them.

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                              • Rocker45

                                #30
                                Re: Jet's con and pros

                                Originally posted by metallicaguitrst
                                LOL Well the moves that "avoid cannon fire" are moves that will get you raped by A2A missles.

                                If you just pull all the way, you can eventually get cannoned.

                                Doing a simple barrel roll is hard to hit with cannons (you would have to do the barrel roll and follow), but that will get you killed by missles so fast.
                                One of my very favorite things to do to 'leet J10 pilots is to run them out of missiles and then get them to chase me around with the cannons. I'll fly basically straight but throw in a little dodging to make sure I don't take random cannon rounds from them. During this time my goal is to get them to think that if they only had two missiles they would down me in a second. Kind of like that apple on the tree that is just barely out of reach.

                                My revenge on the J10 abusers!

                                Rocker

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