EA gets hit by the karma bus: BF2142 sales

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There not bad company(s), it's just they made some poor decisions with BF2.
They gave us quite a few expansions & booster packs & the # of people still playing BF2 is a testament to the fact that EA & DICE are both fine companys that can create some amazing games.

Funny how someone can hate a company yet still play there games...hmmm

So true, I don't hate EA or DICE I hate what they have done to the BF2 community.

[FatEmu]

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I've got 2142, got 400+ points on it :)

The only reason it's still in my house is because my little brother likes it. He's got more points than I have anyway.

Not exactly a great game though.

[vesuvan]

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Seriously, go a play it for like 10 hours and see if your opinion doesn't change.

I used a gift card and bought 2142 when it came out. I played it straight for 2 weeks and noticed that is does have some good improvements (unlocks, stat system, balance), however, it failed to immerse me into it like BF2 has.

I wish they would have patched BF2 with some of the great improvements of 2142 instead of releasing it. IMO, 2142 came out way too soon and the battlefield community rejected it since it was the same technology with little change from BF2.

[Toxitron]

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2142 is a great improvement over BF2. The unlock system works so that everythime you rank up, you get an unlock. Also there are 40 unlocks adn only 8 are weapons. The TITAN mode definitely does rock hard. THe game was force-constructed around teamplay and succeds where BF2 failed. There are squad leader success point, squad member success and assistance points as well as titan attack/defense bonuses. kills are worth 1 pt and so is neutralizing or capping a silo. less points but the game is balanced for that.

Its worth buying I think and Ive been thru the wringer on BF2

[TMB]

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THe game was force-constructed around teamplay and succeds where BF2 failed.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people with guns. BF2 doesn't fail at team work, the people playing it do. If players need to be so led by the hand to understand how to work together than they are the failures.

[Saluca]

Re: EA gets hit by the karma bus: BF2142 sales

2142 is a great improvement over BF2. The unlock system works so that everythime you rank up, you get an unlock. Also there are 40 unlocks adn only 8 are weapons. The TITAN mode definitely does rock hard. THe game was force-constructed around teamplay and succeds where BF2 failed. There are squad leader success point, squad member success and assistance points as well as titan attack/defense bonuses. kills are worth 1 pt and so is neutralizing or capping a silo. less points but the game is balanced for that.

Its worth buying I think and Ive been thru the wringer on BF2

Yes they maked more playeble for little kids who couldn't adept

[RocketChild]

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Guns don't kill people, people kill people with guns. BF2 doesn't fail at team work, the people playing it do. If players need to be so led by the hand to understand how to work together than they are the failures.

i agree. I mostly play in squads that have their act together and it is often because of that one squad that anything ever gets done in a round. VOIP and squad work make a game so much better. It is sad out much force it takes to get people to just try and have more fun!

I am happy with some of the breakthroughs I have heard about with 2142. But, what I am disappointed with is that they did not do more retro fitting of the features in 2142 to BF2.

I have often wanted to see a full conversion MOD for 2142 to make it BF2 on the 2142 engine. I would love a lot of the little features that could be added. I hate Karkand, but think of what an grapple hook unlock would do to that map!?!?!?

No doubt DiCE can make a game fun...but it is the follow through that is often the deciding point where merit is warranted. If DiCE/EA would have kept up work on BF2, they would have had a game that could have rivaled Q3, Halo, and CS in years played and fan base. They could have kept the revenue stream up with more features through time.

I have a good feeling DiCE, which is still a young company, has learned some very valuable lessons from BF2.

Which might be a reason they are pushing back into the console market. From what Carmack has said, it is much easier to write and support for a console.

[imported_TheDragon]

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we have about 30-50 active players in our clan
more than 3/4 refused to by 2142 because EA treats us like dirt
think of all the MILLIONS and MILLIONS of Dollars they lost because they have MORONS in QA and SUPPORT

wake up EA management !!!! - we are NOT idiots - we are your Customers
who have voiced our opinion with our wallets

ps
even though the gameplay is great and the community here at large is GREAT
think how much MONEY EA is losing - un believeble

[TotalBF2er]

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Yeah, but the demo is not the full game and is lacking sorely compared to the full version. Plus you only get to play one map.

Too ****ing bad for EA, isn't it? We all bought BF2 because when we played the Gulf Of Oman demo, it was like "Wow, cool game, this has possibilities". We didn't get the same reaction from the 2142 demo.

A demo is available to help sell a game. If the demo is sorely lacking, in this case in 2142 vs the BF2, I'm certainly not going to spend another $60 to find out if the game is good 'full version' or not. That point, along with the shoddy workmanship and support from EA for BF2, is what caused my group to not purchase 2142. And we don't regret it at all.

2142 is a great improvement over BF2. There are squad leader success point, squad member success and assistance points as well as titan attack/defense bonuses. kills are worth 1 pt and so is neutralizing or capping a silo. less points but the game is balanced for that.

Its worth buying I think and Ive been thru the wringer on BF2

So then why is it that these features couldn't be patched into BF2 as it progressed? Or is this just a ploy to say "features are improved over BF2" to sucker us all into putting more money in EA's pocket?

i If DiCE/EA would have kept up work on BF2, they would have had a game that could have rivaled Q3, Halo, and CS in years played and fan base.

And there are 3 times the amount of players for CS:S than BF2, and it's been out for awhile. The original CS still has a huge market share. EA could stand to learn from Valve for future games.

[troybob]

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i stopped 2 strangers from buying it at best buy (on 2 different occasions).

i said spyware - and the box went back on the shelf. Of course they bought bf2 instead, so I guess EA still got some cash.

[RocketChild]

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i stopped 2 strangers from buying it at best buy (on 2 different occasions).

i said spyware - and the box went back on the shelf. Of course they bought bf2 instead, so I guess EA still got some cash.

:salute:

Honestly though, I would like for DiCE to make money. I am just not satisified with the overall support they push (or get to) for their products.

[imported_Calibre]

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I guess from the half a billion generated off the 4 titles they have in the top 10 EA won't lose a pile of sleep over it, besides 12 million $ off a mod isn't bad. I guess we showed them, eh?

[L3adcannon]

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I hate to say it, but 2142 is much more balanced, optimized, with much better sound-fx, gfx, a lot more interesting unlocks. Too bad EA/DICE ****ed up with BF2- made me not buy 2142.
I`ve played it at my friend`s house and I`m thinking of buying it.

[vik1ng]

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And the fact that lots of people still play BF2 is not a testament to quality of EA, it's a testament to the quality of BF2's gameplay. EA is a publisher, nothing more. They have about as much to do with the quality of the game as Apple has to do with the quality of the music on iTunes. BTW, the creation of BF2 wasn't even fully Dice's doing--they had Trauma Studios (the guys who made the Desert Combat mod) working on it until they decided to quit and form a new studio (Kaos).

For the most part but couple of corrections. EA is a publisher and they pushed DICE to release the game prematurely, it's just got so much buzz on E3 that they released it in June where I think it was supposed to be released in August, don't take my word on it I read that long time ago and might be mistaken here.

2. Guys from Truama Studio didn't quit, EA fired them.

Yeah, but the demo is not the full game and is lacking sorely compared to the full version. Plus you only get to play one map.

I was a huge fan of BF1942, I was a bit skeptic about the BF2 demo but as soon as the map loaded I was hooked, I liked everything from the moment I played the demo, and I played the **** out of that demo and that one map.

When I dl'd BF2142 I got bored with it after 2 hours of playing, the map was boring, slow paced, yeah, I've noticed some stuff were fixed that BF2 had or still has but it wasn't worth spending another 50 bucks on it...

Now, people say 2142 is balanced better, less bugs and stuff like that... What it tells me is that if DICE had more time on BF2 it would a truly fantastic game...

[Saluca]

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I hate to say it, but 2142 is much more balanced, optimized, with much better sound-fx, gfx, a lot more interesting unlocks. Too bad EA/DICE ****ed up with BF2- made me not buy 2142.
I`ve played it at my friend`s house and I`m thinking of buying it.

Stop it's balanced, I though it was clone balance.
ohh It doesn't take make balance if you nerf the **** out off all weapons first