Anti spawn rape

[FPS[VT_NERD]]

Re: Anti spawn rape

Does'nt the acutual Spawn Point glow or turn red when it's being attacked?

Or does it mean something else?

Ie: Someone's already spawning there.... You have to wait for a second or two...... Always wondered what this meant. Some times it's there, sometimes it's not.

When the white circle turns red and you can't select it, it probably means that flag is under attack, but not directly. The red circle indicates too many people are trying to spawn at once and you have to wait your turn. If that many people are trying to spawn there though you can bet it's under attack.

[Kayback]

Re: Anti spawn rape

I don't mind spawn raping, if you are using it to dominate a flag while you are trying to cap it. I don't like the people who park tanks or heli's and shoot at spawn points, without trying to cap a flag.

But what annoys me is the people who keep spawning there! Simply spawn somwhere else and take the fight back to them.

People complain that the tanks and APC's spawn rape in Karkand Hotel. Well how about spawning Square with an AT kit and shooting at the APC's?

Atacking uncaps FTL though. People always do it, then ***** if you do it back.

I don't like the 4 second unvulnerability, unless they can't shoot when invulnerable, because you'd never be able to cap a point. People would spawn and kill you while you couldn't kill them.....

KBK

[Miniman]

Re: Anti spawn rape

You must play on a lot of spawn camping servers :laugh: .

yeah, most servers. spawn camping puts a lot of ppl of bf2, but every FPS has this problem, except ones with safe respawn.

[Cantina_Fly]

Re: Anti spawn rape

I want to win. I win by reducing your tickets to zero first. Taking your flags away makes this process go faster, so want to take your flags. If you spawn at a flag I am trying to take, I will kill you. If you spawn there again, I will kill you again. If that is your last flag, you will probably lose that round. If that isn't your last flag, then chaulk one up for Darwin. If I'm just camping your flag and not trying to take it, then I'm a n00b and should be pitied. T-bag me and move on.

I have to say that your idea of being able to see what's going on around a flag before spawning in sounds like a bad idea. If I'm attacking a flag and don't know where you'll spawn, why should you know where I am? Yes, better players know where the spawn points around a flag are, but then that's part of the benefit of being a veteran.

What I think might work better is concentric rings of spawn points. The center most ring would contain the default spawn points. Once a set number of enemys have entered that ring, your spawn points move out to the next ring. If the ring is occupied (obviously by a much larger number of enemies) then move out to the 3rd and last ring. In effect, what this does is gradually turn the defender into the attacker. Now instead of spawning in right ontop of someone taking the flag, you spawn a little further away where you're less likely to get shot in the back before your weapon draw animation completes. Further, what this does in the case of your last flag where everyone on the enemy team is circling it (hence forcing you out to the 3rd spawn ring.) You are now effectively spawning "behind" them. You can of course opt to turn around and head back to your beliegered flag, or you can move out and try to capture another flag.

Attacking a teams last flag (conceptually) should work like squeezing a fist full of sand. You get a nice compact ball of sand at the center (kills), but most of the sand should fall out (and hence be free to go take flags back.) The way it works now is more like the wine press and the grape scenario...

[troll_hammer2020]

Re: Anti spawn rape

iv been on a few severs that alow this kinda thing .
and i dont mind some ppl spawn killing like snipers and stuff.
what i cant stand is when your down to just your uncap.
and the other guys are just spawn rapping the hell outa you.
saying things like hey man its war well im not to well up on a lot of things.
but im pretty sure theres no respawning in war .
and its basicly a crap form of stat padding i never spawn rape the uncaps.
i dont even drop art on the uncaps like the carrier that just sucks.
but i have seen a lot of gr8 severs go down hill since the ROE came out.
where before clans stuck to their own fair play kinda rules .
like no base rapping or art in the uncaps stuff like that .
now it seems they looked at the ROE and said why play fair theres nothing about that in the ROE.
yes lets base rape the hell outa these guys grab all the tanks planes AA jeeps anything and blow the crap outa them.
some ppl will say im cryying but i think it just brings ppl down and PC games are about having fun with your m8s online.
maybe they should have made it where all flags could be caped .
or like POE2 where if your in the other guys uncap its like going into the red off map and you will die pretty fast.
well its just one of the many things that bring down an otherwise gr8 game and i cant see it stoping any time soon

[disfigured]

Re: Anti spawn rape

g.

But what annoys me is the people who keep spawning there! Simply spawn somwhere else and take the fight back to them.
KBK

Maybe they're playing for points. It's a legitimate game feature. There in lies the problem with the points/rank system.

All of you point conscious players who want your ranks, badges, and unlocks, can't say squat about some one farming a spawn point. Not specifically you Kayback, I don't know what your feelings are on points/rank.

Players may feel that it's not an honorable way of playing, but since gaining points is an entirely alternate motivation to play the game, there's really no standard anyone has to go by. If taking the spawn is the best way to win a round, but yet we give people other motivation for playing the game and measuring their success, there's really nothing one can say about it.

How many times have one of you gone for a badge when you probably could have been doing other things that would be more effective in helping out the team win? Plenty of times. Those things seem rather innocent and trivial, and they are, and possibly could be tolerated.

But if some one feels they want to rack up a large point total as thier motivation to play, then farming a spawn point is the way to do it. If they take the spawn then there are no enemys to kill.

If your a braggart about your points or crave the next unlock, but then turn around and ***** and moan about some one point farming, then your a hypocrite. Plain and simple.

I could care less about my points and I have to fend off these farmers, at least those striving for points get something in return. A system of ranking and points that they care about and enjoy.

[xpnl]

Re: Anti spawn rape

SPAWN AT SQUADLEADER!!!
SQUADLEADER STAY OUT OF TROUBLE well as much as possible !!!
simple