prone->crouch delay 2sec?

[Roger Smith]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

Since when is it realistic that a soldier can't shoot when standing from prone position?

well as long as your finger is on the trigger you can shoot in real life. what you hit on the otherhand, is a different story.

It's people like YOU that caused all these tweaks & changes to occur in the patches!

technically its dice. and alot of the changes were for the better.

You people can't just play the game. You have to run around & find new exploits & flaws with a game. Good job!

theres nothing wrong with people exploiting, the problem is when the developer doesnt recognize the problem, its source, and how to fix it without creating more problems.

as for the problems of dolphin diving, instaproneing, and bunny hopping, heres my suggestions for how to fix those: (disregaurding the ones in place)

+dolphin dive/prone spam:
-no prone while mid jump
-when going to or from prone, a delay before you can do it again. this applys to standing and crouching.

+bunnyhopping:
-diconnect jump from stamina, and just put an instant delay from one jump to the next.

+instaprone:
-an instant of inaccuracy when going to or from prone.

[thecolorpink]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

BF2 is "NOT" supposed to be realistic or authentic. It's an arcade based game, set in an arcade setting, with "Authentic Looking" but in no way "Authentic" weapons, vehicles, tactics, and terrain. Hell, even the scale of the game is kinda' whacky.

I digress though, this dely "is" realistic (which in turn means it has NO place in BF2). Now, you could ride the "technical" limitations of actions all day. Sure, while standing and crouching and proning a soilder is techinicaly capable of pulling the trigger and engaging his weapon. Yet, anyone who has "ANY" type of weapons knowlege, or training, wouldn't dare to do so. It's not tactically sound.

You're beyond unstable, you're not even centered or focused on what you're shooting at, nor' is your weapon glued to your shoulder and stabilized as it should be. It's just not somthing any logical person would do, that's why EA put in the delay. Not that you "cannot" fire while standing, proning, whatever; ...no, it's just that you "WOULDN'T" do somthing that stupid in an actual combat situation.

Also, I'm sure the shooting through walls thing had a major play in it also.

I digress once again though. Considering "NOTHING" else about BF2 is even slightly realistic, I find it odd that EA would choose the realism card on this nitpick situation vs. some of the more obvious examples of "CS'ism". It's like throwing realistic weapon damage into Unreal Tournament, or adding Rail Guns to Operation Flashpoint. It's just silly, and should be adjusted to fit the arcadish mold of the rest of BF2.

STICK TO YA' GUNS EA! ...fa' christ sake?

{WP}Paas

"tear", that was beautiful(or however u spell it)

[Chab]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

You think I`m whinning?!? Think again, I`ll just use choppers from now on, I`m already known as a chopper whore on some servers, so I gues the ground pawning that I was doing to from time to time just came to an END!! Now let me hear you cry because the guys in vehicles rape you some more now ...

LOL, exactly what I'll do, chopper whore.

[[Expletive Deleted]]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

So, you'll wait on the pad with all the other would-be chopper whores? Will you TK them to fulfill your dreams? How about just hop out of a moving vehicle to kill them so you don't ruin your precious stats?
I played for a while yesterday and didn't find any gamebreaking changes. Of course, I never relied on exploits in the first place...

[GrimsDead]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

BF2 is "NOT" supposed to be realistic or authentic. It's an arcade based game, set in an arcade setting, with "Authentic Looking" but in no way "Authentic" weapons, vehicles, tactics, and terrain. Hell, even the scale of the game is kinda' whacky.

I digress though, this dely "is" realistic (which in turn means it has NO place in BF2). Now, you could ride the "technical" limitations of actions all day. Sure, while standing and crouching and proning a soilder is techinicaly capable of pulling the trigger and engaging his weapon. Yet, anyone who has "ANY" type of weapons knowlege, or training, wouldn't dare to do so. It's not tactically sound.

You're beyond unstable, you're not even centered or focused on what you're shooting at, nor' is your weapon glued to your shoulder and stabilized as it should be. It's just not somthing any logical person would do, that's why EA put in the delay. Not that you "cannot" fire while standing, proning, whatever; ...no, it's just that you "WOULDN'T" do somthing that stupid in an actual combat situation.

Also, I'm sure the shooting through walls thing had a major play in it also.

I digress once again though. Considering "NOTHING" else about BF2 is even slightly realistic, I find it odd that EA would choose the realism card on this nitpick situation vs. some of the more obvious examples of "CS'ism". It's like throwing realistic weapon damage into Unreal Tournament, or adding Rail Guns to Operation Flashpoint. It's just silly, and should be adjusted to fit the arcadish mold of the rest of BF2.

STICK TO YA' GUNS EA! ...fa' christ sake?

{WP}Paas

Rambo can stand up and shoot a 50 cal browning automatic machine gun :)

[thecolorpink]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

So, you'll wait on the pad with all the other would-be chopper whores? Will you TK them to fulfill your dreams? How about just hop out of a moving vehicle to kill them so you don't ruin your precious stats?

i will, the game was ruined for me so ill ruin it for others so they can feel my pain :laugh:

[DesertFalcon]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

Delay=good

[[Expletive Deleted]]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

i will, the game was ruined for me so ill ruin it for others so they can feel my pain :laugh:

Ever hear the expression, "don't be that guy?"
Wow, you're "that guy."

[XmetallicaXguitarstX]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

OMG! this patch even worser...

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Radar-C}{G-]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

The game won't ever be flawless.

To add to that statement:

Any fix applied will make about a third the players happy, another won't care as it may not affect them and the other third will be unhappy.

Based on others statements this seems about right.

[Chab]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

So, you'll wait on the pad with all the other would-be chopper whores? Will you TK them to fulfill your dreams?

Yeah, I'll TK everyone on the pad so I can have the chopper for myself.

[zzDimaxx]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

one more thing do you satisfy with C4 throw distance its like 0.3M FFS!
now i will never be a spec-op
And BTW did they roll back Shock paddles?

[Combat-Quokka]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

i didnt even notice the delay......my style of playing does not require that i constantly prone spam, and floor-hump down the street like some retard on crack....

Same here. I haven't needed to modify my playing style at all.

WRONG.......it wasnt the whining, or complaining that got this game nerfed....its was stupid idiots exploiting everything....loser no-skill exploiters who cannot play a game as intended, have to spend hours searching for new ways to exploit game mechanics for their precious points......

QFT! The only people I see complaining are the prone-jumpers, the prouchers, and the guys who did that little animation trick of shooting people from behind barriers without the possibility of being seen.

The game aint perfect (still get those connection problems, and haven't tested out the seat-switching-lock-break yet), but it's pretty good.

as for the problems of dolphin diving, instaproneing, and bunny hopping, heres my suggestions for how to fix those: (disregaurding the ones in place)

Jet-whore comes up with a new set of suggestions to help him stop getting owned on the ground.

[Dairuka]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

I've already adapted to the new playstyle and delays.

I still dominate.

[buteonidae]

Re: prone->crouch delay 2sec?

I haven't even noticed the change! Doesn't even bother me cuz I've not noticed any change in that 2second thing.