Do you think?

**imported_Kold81** · 08-27-2006, 03:28 AM

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Good question, I think the ranking system....was a good and bad idea. It has given people something to work for and as we all know, is a popular feature in MMORPGs which BF2 wanted to tap into. With the ability to earn unlocks there is a reward to playing that was never in the other BF games. The downside is of course the people who play for "only" their stats and that leads to some things that piss people off, spawncamping etc.

But all the teamkilling spawncamping etc. happend in BFv just maybe not quite as much. Try playing an unranked mod, you see dolphin divers, spawnkillers, armor whores, and everything else thats in the ranked version of BF2. Granted not as much but the community for the mods has always been smaller and maybe more mature.....

I think the community for BF2 would be smaller but use more teamwork if there were no stats..

Good questions though I wonder what everyone else thinks?

**Dairuka** · 08-27-2006, 03:33 AM

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If they made teamwork earn a lot of points for people, you'd be seeing it more often.

**Elbryan** · 08-27-2006, 03:45 AM

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Take in example America's Army ..
There you don't have to check your stats, you don't have unlocks or stuff and, as you can see, there aren't ppl that teamkill but there aren't planes to take :P

I agree with Kold81 but the servers could include some script like:
- A teamkills B, A takes a veichle by 10 seconds (in a base): warning.
The second time that he does something like that: kick. (We can use the same algorithm for players that steal the kits)

This, IMHO, could be a good solution to avoid or contain tk.

Ah .. instead of kicking, the server could remove 20 points, 50, 100, 500, 1000.

**SaS|firestorm** · 08-27-2006, 03:53 AM

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nah, i recon there would be lees coz of the same as kold81 statement

**BigBadBob** · 08-27-2006, 04:29 AM

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It was a good idea, but failed miserably. The ranks, and most requirements to get them are based solely on time and points. It's just a matter of time to farm the points needed to get the next rank.

What they need to do is change it (at least for 2142) to where it's not based soley on points. But a combination of points, flag caps, flag assists, flag defends, weapoin proficiency (skilled in multiple weapon classes), k/d overall, time played, points per round, maps played (more maps = better ranking points). And any other thing I missed.

Take all those, apply a formula and you get a true ranking system. Not one that a person who does nothing but run around 1 map with his shock paddles out is the best. When someone who is 10 times better, is great at teamwork, helps where he is needed etc... is ranked a lot lower.

They base the whole systems' "integrity" on points, then get pissed off when people stat pad. It doesn't take a genious to look ahead and see that that will be a problem. But it's DICEA we're talking about.

**Cazzy** · 08-28-2006, 02:22 AM

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I also think that players would be less selfish and teamwork would be more prevalent. However the excitement and feeling of accomplishment would be diminished without the bonus of unlocks & ranking up-

**Roger Smith** · 08-28-2006, 02:56 AM

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i think the rank system was a bad idea untill the gameplay was perfect, and the rank system was perfect. so basically i think they should have done a trial of the rank system for the first year and then reset everything when the gameplay/ranks were perfect.

but they made thier money, so they dont care now.

**BryanG** · 08-28-2006, 03:59 AM

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If it was straight u fight and no points outside of the round, nothing to shoot for - this game would be dead already.

**Dairuka** · 08-28-2006, 04:34 AM

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Some people use the ranking system to show off how good they are.

Some people use the ranking system as a chance to aspire to gaming greatness.

Some people use the ranking system to find out their weaknesses, and to better themselves.

Some people use the ranking system as a scapegoat.