Solo Helicopter?

[Sloi sauce]

Re: Solo Helicopter?

One of the other forums that is his main bread-and-butter, is one in which everyone gets to come on and explain how intelligent they all are. In one thread, when everyone is asked what IQ they have, 70% of them say they're in the top 5%.

Hahahahahaha. Classic.

Cerebrals is defunct now, though it was a very popular society with a warm
fostering atmosphere.

It's always amusing to see an obviously disqualified person attempt to mock
people discussing psychometrics in a closed forum.

[Combat-Quokka]

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It's always amusing to see an obviously disqualified person attempt to mockpeople discussing psychometrics in a closed forum.

Haha... perhaps a person as obviously intelligent as you (based upon such learned people as yourself, of course) should know the difference between disqualified and unqualified.

Kinda proves my point.

Stick to toner cartridge replacements kid.

Sloi are you American? I have no idea where/what Qc is.

PS. I saw you in Gamearena Karkand today Combat Quokka, I even killed you two or three times

Hehe... I'm not that hard to kill. I've never wanted more than to get by... Had good fun though. btw, quebec is in canada. It's the french speaking part. And like all french people, they do have quite a high opinion of themselves. But unlike the real french, no real justification for it.

dice hasent fixed many issues with the game that they themselves have admitted are wrong, i have no problem with soloing other than it hurts your team if the enemy has competent pilots, i do have a problem with anything losing a lock because someone switched seats.

exactly.

[ArmadonRK]

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I have nothing agianst soloers. I solo from time to time when a good flying partner is hard to come by. I don't claim to be good at it, I find it hard to focus on both evasion and gunning at the same time. But what I can tell you is that a two-man chopper is better than a solo chopper any day of the week, when the occupants are all of equal skill. Key word. You stick a competenet pilot and gunner in a chopper, and an equally skilled solo pilot in the opposing chopper, there's going to be a clear winner. The two man heli. Aside from having a much easier time firing TVs and evading, the two man heli can mow down infantry like nothing else, and this means hell for the other team when you communicate with a squad to take down an enemy flag. Sure, you see armor, you TV it, you save your infantry a lot of effort, and your team a lot of tickets. But the helo's chain gun allows infantry to cap flags like they were meant to. Strafe run any flag and it's wide open for infantry to take with a little bit of heli cover to pick off those guys spawning in the tricky spots. You don't get that with a solo chopper, so as beneficial as a solo chopper is to a team, you can never be as good as a two-man chopper can be.

[vidh]

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dice hasent fixed many issues with the game that they themselves have admitted are wrong, i have no problem with soloing other than it hurts your team if the enemy has competent pilots, i do have a problem with anything losing a lock because someone switched seats.

I can't say that I notice that the missiles loose lock when I switch seats, because I switch back to the pilot's seat after I've fired the TV. But if that's a problem, then yes, it should be fixed.

About tk:ing for the heli. I don't do it. However if someone were to tk me I wouldn't turn the other cheek, but do the same thing to him as soon as I got the chance. I have been taken out of bounds by a person once, it lead to both of us dying and the heli going to waste for a minute.

I most often don't need to tk for a heli since I play on low populated servers, but if someone got in the gunner's seat I would first see if they were able to gun, if they aren't, I would ask him to bail out. If he doesn't reply and does nothing I would try to get another heli myself or wait for him to die and the heli to respawn.

What bugs me about solo'ers is that they dont help deal with infantry. I have no problems with tanks they have a iny feeld of vision are slow and lack manuverability if I'm fighting a tank. I hide wait for it to leave and recap the flag.

Overwhelming forces of infantry are my problem.

The first thing that a heli tries to take out are other helis/AA. After that tanks and if possible jets/infantry. There isn't really much time anyway to deal with a lot of infantry because of helis/tanks, but I try to kill infantry if I have the chance (with the gunners chaingun/TV-missile).

[Sloi sauce]

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Haha... perhaps a person as obviously intelligent as you (based upon such learned people as yourself, of course) should know the difference between disqualified and unqualified.

I'll concede that I used the wrong word, though you should know English is not my mother tongue: still, it hasn't stopped me from using it better than 90%+ of americans thus far...

Any additional nitpicks or should I simply brace myself for your next ad hom? :)

[Eviscereightor]

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Don't worry sloi, i know you're right. Reading this thread was painful and annoying.

..and for the record, i get shot down while in the gunner's seat by heatseekers often.

By solo-ing i can take out as much infantry, armor, and aircraft as an average duo on teamspeak. I out-score and out-gun the guys from team phoenix who i see in the chopper.

I rarely tk, and never OOB punish my gunners, i prefer to play dalian or dragon so i have more of a chance of getting a chopper to myself.

[Repent]

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No, I recognize a chopper as a two-man crew ride and unless I dont have a gunner, I dont touch it. Occasionally I try to play on my luck and get into the chopper. But as soon as my gunner shows hes less than I expext from him (and I dont expect that much), I crash the chopper and take a jet.

Wow, what a teamplayer, crash and burn your own teammate.

I have taken, I think, 2 guys OoB, both of them were people who TKd me on takeoff. In other words, it was a retaliation act. Since taking people OoB is humiliating, to say the least, they got what they deserved.

There is no excuse for taking anyone OoB, ever, but then again you have admitted to cheating.

I havent TKd for a vehicle for a LONG time, I did this a few times when I was overly excited about the game and wanted to play with jets jet jets and only jets. But this is almost a year back.

I have never TKed for a vehicle, ever, it's just not on my list of things I do.

And screw you with honesty, Repent. In our last argument you told me to ask Sloi if he used macros. I pointed you towards posts where he said himself that he despises macros, and you kept moaning about him using macros. Well done!

YOU are the macro user, Sloi is just stuck on himself. He probally plays BF2 in front of a mirror.

As far as exploiting goes, absolutely everyone has exploited the game in one way or another. Be it "bunnyhopping" (so the hitboxes get screwy) or fly a chopper without a gunner.

Keep telling yourself it's ok to exploit Chris, it still won't make it right.

Matter of fact is, its not an exploit until you get owned in the game. I would imagine you would scream "exploit exploit" when I introduce you to my bomber solo flight... But until then, theres NO topics, NO posts about solo bombers. Because its different? No! But because its not popular and people dont "own" in them.

Blah, blah, blah....

So, Repent, have you ever hopped around more than 2 times? Or dived into the ground? I already know the answer. Youre an exploiter.

I don't exploit, my proof is my sorry score, but every single point that I've got has been done fairly.

And anyone that knows me, knows that I seldomly go prone, I like to move constantly, I mostly fly jets or helis, I'm not a ground pounder, and I like to snipe, when not flying.

But I have never taken anyone OoB, I have never TKed for a vehicle, and If I'm solo in a heli, I always pickup anyone that's willing to gun, cause I do fine with the missles anyway.

I'm sorry that you exploiters are not willing to except that seat switching does in fact throw the locking of missles/stingers etc.. off.

Otherwise, we wouldn't be here right now arguing about it.

[.Churr.]

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I can't understand how soloing became exploiting/cheating??

You argue about the locking thing... Even if that were true... Big deal, I still can shoot you before I get in your range. But we both know it isn't. It is just an excuse for you to whine whine whine!!

[Chris_Redfield]

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Wow, what a teamplayer, crash and burn your own teammate.

I better do something useful for my team rather than waste a piece of equipment that needs 2 skilled operators to operate at its full efficiency... wow, what a wrong concept of teamwork, right?

There is no excuse for taking anyone OoB, ever, but then again you have admitted to cheating.

Where? How? Where have I admitted to cheating?

I have never TKed for a vehicle, ever, it's just not on my list of things I do.

YOU are the macro user, Sloi is just stuck on himself. He probally plays BF2 in front of a mirror.

Nevermind the fact that I cant even program for crap, I need help in fixing basic issues with PC and I need my brother to format my harddrive (well, needed, at least). And I macro, yeah right. What makes you think Im a macro user? Does it come from the fact that I dont like macro using players? Oh, were talking about REPENT here. Sorry I forgot, you have an awesome ability to either quote people out of context or fabricate complete lies...

Nice sig BTW, Christian values? Right...

Keep telling yourself it's ok to exploit Chris, it still won't make it right.

Actually, its a game. You win an engagement no matter what. If you need to exploit, shame on you. But if we get down to the basics, its always better to continue playing rather than enjoying the spawn screen. I got "educated" on the matter very well. Doesnt mean I exploit the game (intentionally anyway), but I do have the brains to actually see the other point of view. WHY do people do certain things. You know, theres a thing called "maturity" which you probably havent heard of. All you can do is spit out ignorant BS.

I don't exploit, my proof is my sorry score, but every single point that I've got has been done fairly.

Welcome to the club. 2:1 helicoper KDR, 0.96:1 KDR with assault rifles. Jets are a different story. I dislike people who want to win with whatever the means necessary, but I dont get all frustrated about it, like you do. I just choose not to follow their example.

Not to mention, I play for my OWN PERSONAL fun, rather than for the acceptance of an ignorant bloke from god knows where named Repent, who cant understand that if something is in the game, you can use it.

And anyone that knows me, knows that I seldomly go prone, I like to move constantly, I mostly fly jets or helis, I'm not a ground pounder, and I like to snipe, when not flying.

I dont know you. So if we put "sniping" and "not being prone" together, I personally get an error message.

I'm sorry that you exploiters are not willing to except that seat switching does in fact throw the locking of missles/stingers etc.. off.

Its funny that youve bunched me together with "exploiters" when my stance is that a helo is a doubleseated vehicle for a reason, and I choose to suck, rather than get macros :) . Ignorance, ignorance, ignorance. Feed yourself with your own BS, I hope it makes you happy.

Youve been proven wrong, that missile lock doesnt break with seatswitching. Get over it.

I supposed your ban anyone switching seats in a tank, just because they want to choose .50 cal to pick a chopper.

And your realism argument? HAH. In real life, both officers can do all tasks.

[Repent]

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Where? How? Where have I admitted to cheating?

In Sloi's other "I'm a soloing god" thread that got deleted, you said that you used or where going to use macros. This clearly breaks EA's Terms of Service (TOS) http://www.ea.com/global/legal/tos.jsp

Are you going to take that back, or say you didn't state that?

Nice sig BTW, Christian values? Right...

So now you want to bring my Faith into this, I disagree with you, and you want to start with the attacking again.

Actually, its a game. You win an engagement no matter what. If you need to exploit, shame on you. But if we get down to the basics, its always better to continue playing rather than enjoying the spawn screen. I got "educated" on the matter very well. Doesnt mean I exploit the game (intentionally anyway), but I do have the brains to actually see the other point of view. WHY do people do certain things. You know, theres a thing called "maturity" which you probably havent heard of. All you can do is spit out ignorant BS.

Again, you start with the attacking, this just shows YOUR maturity Chris, you know people CAN disagree Chris, welcome to earth.

Welcome to the club. 2:1 helicoper KDR, 0.96:1 KDR with assault rifles. Jets are a different story. I dislike people who want to win with whatever the means necessary, but I dont get all frustrated about it, like you do. I just choose not to follow their example.

I haven't got frustrated Chris, you however seem to be frustrated when not agreed with.

Not to mention, I play for my OWN PERSONAL fun, rather than for the acceptance of an ignorant bloke from god knows where named Repent, who cant understand that if something is in the game, you can use it.

Here is your frustration hard at work. I'm not "ignorant" I just don't agree with you. Can you make a post without calling names? I doubt it.

I dont know you. So if we put "sniping" and "not being prone" together, I personally get an error message.

It's my style, sorry if you don't like it, I like to crouch, and then move to another position quickly, I'm sorry if this is "outside the box".

Its funny that youve bunched me together with "exploiters" when my stance is that a helo is a doubleseated vehicle for a reason, and I choose to suck, rather than get macros :) . Ignorance, ignorance, ignorance. Feed yourself with your own BS, I hope it makes you happy.

I'll ask you again Chris, since Sloi's other thread was deleted, have you used macros, or do you intend to.

Youve been proven wrong, that missile lock doesnt break with seatswitching. Get over it.

Proof? There you go again...

I supposed your ban anyone switching seats in a tank, just because they want to choose .50 cal to pick a chopper.

No, not an exploit.

[lostinspace]

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[Repent]

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This thread has been so amuzing to read again...
I love seeing how easely some people are pulled out of their tents and go on for hours trying in vain to prove some point, as if people care

I'm a solo chopper whore myself... (reason I read these threads, always looking for tips and exploits)
I have TKed and Oob's (though not lately) for it and any chance I get to take off alone, I take...
(I will look in outside view while taking off and if someone is running for the chopper, I'll change to gunner in the last second, couse I don't think it is fun to fly for the vast majority of gunners out there...

And honestly, I could care less if my team wins or looses, or if the guy next to me is having a good time... I play this game for me and me alone...
(Unless my clanmates are on the same server)

Perhaps you don't like me..? ...
Don't go away mad, just go away or stay and see if I care...


Is it really different for you guys..?
Do you actually feel bad for your team if you loose a round..?
Do you get mad at loosing a win/loss ratio or the guy you think is responsable for that..?
It's a game you know..! You turn your computer on, load up a game and have fun, then log off...
Why else would you play it..?


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EDIT::

Let's come clean and piss someone off...

I use a fire fast macro for guiding the tv missile... ('What..!??' Yes 'Cheater!!11' So..?)
I build it into my croutch button to make it really convieniant for me to use...
It only guides while in tv mode and also, that same croutch button goes to potition3 in any vehicle which has one or, any other higher position in the vehicle if position3 is allready taken...
Talk about handy and making the game easier end more enjoyable..!




With me, the lock does not get broken anymore... This seems to have gotten fixed with patch 1.3

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I rest my case.

[Chris_Redfield]

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In Sloi's other "I'm a soloing god" thread that got deleted, you said that you used or where going to use macros. This clearly breaks EA's Terms of Service (TOS) http://www.ea.com/global/legal/tos.jsp

Are you going to take that back, or say you didn't state that?

I said I will try to use one. And since I have yet to use a macro, does that make me a cheater?

So now you want to bring my Faith into this, I disagree with you, and you want to start with the attacking again.

:laugh: ! Hahaha! Youre the one having a MAJOR problem with accepting that solo-choppering is NOT cheating, NOT exploiting and is simply the use of game mechanics! Youre the one attacking people for not agreeing with you! Youre also guilty in labelling every chopper pilot a cheating exploiter, even though they have admitted that they are NOT quilty in what youve accused them to be. Hahaha, oh man, youre so pathetic its funny.

Again, you start with the attacking, this just shows YOUR maturity Chris, you know people CAN disagree Chris, welcome to earth.

Then Repent, honey, why cant you accept that solo-choppering is not a sin? Earth too far for you to reach? :cry:

I haven't got frustrated Chris, you however seem to be frustrated when not agreed with.

On what? That Im a hacking, exploiting solo-macro exploiter even though I dont? Sorry, I wont let you lable me for something that I am not, and you shouldnt expect to get away with it.

Here is your frustration hard at work. I'm not "ignorant" I just don't agree with you. Can you make a post without calling names? I doubt it.

Its not "Lets agree to disagree" anymore since youve labelled me as-

YOU are the macro user, Sloi is just stuck on himself. He probally plays BF2 in front of a mirror.

Thank you for showing your objective and mature mind. :laugh: . I simply support solo-choppering as an often necesary thing to create better results than having a team of one competent crewmate dragging the other one around.

It's my style, sorry if you don't like it, I like to crouch, and then move to another position quickly, I'm sorry if this is "outside the box".

Hmm, "outside the box" for you, "stupidly unbelievable lie to make myself look better than you" for me. Sorry, I find that very hard to believe.

I'll ask you again Chris, since Sloi's other thread was deleted, have you used macros, or do you intend to.

My stance on macroing is posted up in that same thread, if youre so interested in judging people that quickly, then find the proof before you do.

Proof? There you go again...

No, no, no. I understand, its always easier to fabricate something!

No, not an exploit.

Then what makes it so different from helo soloing?

Case closed.


As for DooDah comments. I dont lable every groundpounder by the face of a Karkand exploiter. If YOU, Repent, choose to be a smaller man and generalize every solo-pilot, then its your choice. Ignorance, afterall as they say, is a bliss.

[lostinspace]

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I rest my case.

If I may ask, what is your reason for reading and responding to these kind of 'solo chopper' threads..?

Oh and BTW, you've got a PM...
And I could use your server info to stay away from it...
Will surve us both to share the Name/IP...


@ Chris... Why do you care or respond to wether or not someone on some forum thinks you are exploiting cheating or whatever..?
Hmmm... On the other hand, I do love these flaming discussions... Carry on soldier :)

[Chris_Redfield]

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@ Chris... Why do you care or respond to wether or not someone on some forum thinks you are exploiting cheating or whatever..?
Hmmm... On the other hand, I do love these flaming discussions... Carry on soldier :)

Its entertaining :laugh: , I like to argue. Although Repent has proven that he cant agree to disagree a long time ago, so thats pretty much like beating a dead horse... camel... couch... whatever.

As a database of fresh tips and knowledge, TBF2 has exhausted itsself for me a long time ago, but its still interesting to argue over some odd topics, because lets face it, the ONLY new material there is right now, is posts about admin/clan abuse and questions from new players.