How to nerf j10 wake style

[hamtheman]

The problem with ownership on wake island where the usmc cannot get off the carrier can be easily solved by removing the little box the j 10s get and the massivly giant tracer these stupid boats leave behind. in other words make the boats harder to see from the air so the j 10 cant rip them to pieces, seriously it take half a second for a good j 10 pilot to kill the boats it insane. even if the boats spread out and move fast they dont have a chance with good j 10 pilots in the air. the power of the j 10 is riduculus. give the usmc a chance to cap the airfield and see how hard the j 10s will battle to get their beloved base back

Here is another thing that gets me so mad. DO NOT FLY LOW AS THE BLACK HAWK PILOT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. you have tanks fav dpv,the z10 and 2 j10s on your ***. GO TO LIKE 300-400 feet and then fall fast to your flag you wanna cap. please think about new tactics people...

isnt the game so much better when the usmc have a base or 2 and their defending for their lives while the chinese are fighting as hard as they can to get them back? so much better than spawn camping any feed back would b good

[WarGimp]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

Removing detection boxes from RIBs might be a generally good idea.

Seriously, the think is a rubber dingy with an outboard motar. It doesn't get much more "stealth" than that. Picking up a RIB on radar would be next to impossible IRL and it wouldn't be a bad mechanic at all.

As for the tracer rounds... uh, don't shoot at the deathbringers!! Please, for the love of GOD people! There is NO point in spamming the crap outta the J-10 or attack chopper with your petty little .30. Don't draw attention to the fact that there's 6 floating points sitting in their little rubber raft!

Blackhawking... yeah, flying high is often a much better way to go n that map, but if the J-10 pilot is looking for you or you've been spotted, it can mean death. Sometimes breaking for the harddeck and using terrain as cover is a better way to go (I generally fly lower than the cliff faces over the beachs when things are getting hairy). Still, HALO is the best overall use of 'Hawks on Wake.

The single thing that annoies me the most on that map is when people abandon the armour assets. Both the northmost flag and the Southbase are easy caps for the enemy if you leave 'em a tank sitting there. Roll that damned armour out!

[[TGBF]exile]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

or have your chopper team shoot down the j-10s with tv guides or have decent f-35 pilots

done deal

[CDN-SMOKEJUMPER]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

That is a good idea, I can see you well enough with the boats wake and don't need the detection boxes anyway but I might miss a few of you this way.

Low altitude fast runs work if the BH pilot is good. You are much harder to shoot down if a gun run a low pass. In fact other than good pilots a deck run on a moving target is more difficult than a high altitude pass.

[Desertfox]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

what are the "detection boxes"

[WarGimp]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

what are the "detection boxes"

He means the targeting boxes that appear over enemy vehicles when you're in bomb mode.

[USI_Krusher]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

what are the "detection boxes"

Maybe they mean target boxes?

Although when flying the J10 in bombing mode, you do not see target boxes on the RHIB's. But the wakes that they leave behind are an easy visual clue.

[Big_red_Cube]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

or have your chopper team shoot down the j-10s with tv guides or have decent f-35 pilots

done deal

must be nice in that imaginary world you live in

[[TGBF]exile]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

must be nice in that imaginary world you live in

if you know how to fly a chopper it will take quite a few strafes for a jet to take you out with proper use of flares, or they have to slow down a ton....either way they will be coming straight at you, fire when they are coming at you...or if they slow down a bunch you can fire right when they pass by and fly it right up their butt
you clearly have never gone up against a skilled chopper duo (or solo guider for that matter)
tv guiding jets isnt hard if you know how to do it.....other methods to take down jets (sraw and DPV), i've witnessed first hand a jet taken down by a sraw from a friend of mine, and i've personally shot down a jet that was coming straight at me while i was in a dpv

[RMcLeod]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

Once on the island if you're a squad leader hang back a bit and don't get too involved in fire-fighting, give your guys somewhere to spawn!

[jakswan]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

I think he's referring to the trail of white water that the boat leaves behind, you don't get a target hud for a boat as I recall, might be wrong but I don't think so.

[DesertFalcon]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

this may make it a little easier for the boats but it still wont solve the huge f-35 and j-10 balance and it might not do much if the j-10 pilot can see the boat with his eyes.

if you know how to fly a chopper it will take quite a few strafes for a jet to take you out with proper use of flares, or they have to slow down a ton....either way they will be coming straight at you, fire when they are coming at you...or if they slow down a bunch you can fire right when they pass by and fly it right up their butt
you clearly have never gone up against a skilled chopper duo (or solo guider for that matter)
tv guiding jets isnt hard if you know how to do it.....other methods to take down jets (sraw and DPV), i've witnessed first hand a jet taken down by a sraw from a friend of mine, and i've personally shot down a jet that was coming straight at me while i was in a dpv

what would you do if the j-10 came from the side of you in missle mode?

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

I think he's referring to the trail of white water that the boat leaves behind, you don't get a target hud for a boat as I recall, might be wrong but I don't think so.

Man, I have no idea how this works. I mean, sometimes it sppears and sometimes it doesnt. It USUALLY appears after Ive flown over the boath once.

[IDC-Shorly]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

When MG fires at you, do a barrel roll.

When lock-warning is detected: Do a barrel roll and flara upside down, then the flares will cover you longer, and even if they come slow, they will not get shots since you have reloaded new flares before the first ones are wasted.

Any good jetpilot will use MG, and MG only, to get the choppers down.

Beeing high makes it even more difficult as strafing the target seldom is in any ideal position, making the barrel roll/flares more effective.

[Lt.Kris]

Re: How to nerf j10 wake style

Once on the island if you're a squad leader hang back a bit and don't get too involved in fire-fighting, give your guys somewhere to spawn!

until a half decent commander spots all your little dots and lays arty and sends in a Z10 to rape you.