The patience is running out...

[Dandred]

Re: The patience is running out...

Get out of my topic, your reply sucks and I don't want your stupid useless replies here, everyone who has argued against me at least gave a valid statement, your statement sucks. So get out thank you :).

Come on, this an online game you can buy from anywhere and just play....

You are complaining about players who don't know to do stuff????

Like i said before if you want l33t players just stick with you clans

If not stop bitching about pub's, pub's are where nearly every new player to this game comes to play.........

What do you want from new players? Experience from the bots???


Sorry to step on yout topic Mr Eternal-Souljah :laugh:

[||3rb||MOBB]

Re: The patience is running out...

Hey soulja, coming from a Jet whore, I know what your talking about and I sympathize. But just get out or ask the gunner in question to get out of the helo before hand. It's pretty much the only thing you can do to aleviate some of the problem. If you go up once with a guy and he sucks, dont go up with him again, maybe you should switch to ground pounding until you can pair up with a guy you do know can gun. I know it kinda sucks man but I deal with the same thing in the bomber (thats why I fly the fighter), line him up perfectly and nothing.

I wish I could help more but as a jet whore All I can do is remove the enemy jets,attack helo and AA for you, which btw doesnt matter how good the enemy attack helo is, will be shot down by me at every opportunity. I like to pave the way for the attack helo and bombers to pound armor and other ground targets. there is a pecking order in this game and it goes something like this...(I'm not the most eloquent person but here goes)

- jets kill other jets and helos (strafe AA every chance in transit)

facilitating...

-attack helos to kill armor (kill AA if necessary)

facilitating...

-armor that kills infantry

facilitating...

-infantry to cap flags


It really is that simple IMHO however there are always exceptions which is why you should stay flexible, but when I'm up in the air I know what my mission is and I carry it out with the objective to win the match, while flying around looking for targets I watch my mini map, if you spot helos or other targets I look to see whos spotting it since if your outside my mini map I wont see the exact target but I still fly by and take note of what your spotted message said and your apc spotted or helo will get strafed. If the infantry manage to cap the airfield and I dont have to worry about jets, I will start bombing all vehicles ahead of that squad as they advance on the next flag (ground support).

If you want to fly an attack helo souljah I invite you to come to ||3rb|| ranked server on July 17, log onto our teamspeak server and let me know your get there(ip for teamspeak is on 3rdranger.org website ). Join the side I'm on and I'll clear the skies for you no problem, also in a pinch I can gun in a helo but pfefer to pilot, I hope this at least helps out a little since you now have a known place you can play to avoid alot of the things you spoke of above. Btw there are quite a few capable helo gunners here too. Ya cant blame people who are new to the helo for trying though they have to learn somehow, but yeah it does suck to go along for the ride when they are learning, so keep your head up :)

||3RB||MOBB

[Flares]

Re: The patience is running out...

Start a squad, invite the pilot/gunner to the squad and talk to each other. VOIP can significantly increase an average crew's survivability and a good crew becomes almost invincible. If you're not talking then just hope that the random person you've hooked up with is competent...

[Linus]

Re: The patience is running out...

what kind of idiot game maker puts a 1000mph jet on a 2 square mile map.

EA and DICE are retards.. the choppers and jets dominate all else on every
map they are in.. This is why you see so many karkand players... this is why
you see the top players in the world play karkand ONLY.

EA and DICE have no common sense.. they had a great idea for a game
and it almost ended up awesome but the gay magical radars , the dumb
commander mode, artillery that kills anyone who trys to go off and get a
base for his team, and the airpower that dominates the rest.. then to add
to it, they give NOTHING to the infantryman to fight against them.. AA guns
that are worthless , and a shoulder fired ground to ground missle the AT guy
carriers is useless against a skilled pilot. Even if you do hit them, they just fly
off for 30 secs to repair.

The game is a joke.. The browser, the bugs, the sillyness of the commander
mode.. voting system is useless, ranked servers, all one big joke.

[[GFF]Pavan]

Re: The patience is running out...

imo, just give em tips. i hate it when i get a pilot and gunner who cant fly/gun. but instead of moaning and what not i try and give em help. i hate it when people start shouting you N00B and what not. maby everyone is not as good as you. and at thread above. the speed at which jets fly at on BF2 are fine imo. i dont know how the speed is measured in bf2 MPH/KPH but to me it seems pretty good to me

[||3rb||MOBB]

Re: The patience is running out...

adapt and overcome!

thats my answer to gameplay issues,

as far as server crashes go... well lets just say a hotfix is long over due.

||3RB||mobb

[SaS|firestorm]

Re: The patience is running out...

Three options:
1: come here and whine (you have covered that well).

2:move on to a new game that involves no cooperation/team play since you are so elite.

OR

3:Maybe you could take them aside and give them some pointers/ training so you could have a few more players fly/shoot missles as well as you and in the process develop some regulars/friends/clan that would meet your standards and fly with you whenever you play.
Something like this guy is trying to do.
http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85015

get over yourself

[gh0st]

Re: The patience is running out...

To the OP i know exactly what you're saying. If you ever want a good pilot and/or gunner, hit me up if ya got xfire: Kildor

I love to fly and I can nver find decent players.

[Blud]

Re: The patience is running out...

get over yourself

Thanks for your intelligent insight.

[Eternal-Souljah]

Re: The patience is running out...

Hey soulja, coming from a Jet whore, I know what your talking about and I sympathize. But just get out or ask the gunner in question to get out of the helo before hand. It's pretty much the only thing you can do to aleviate some of the problem. If you go up once with a guy and he sucks, dont go up with him again, maybe you should switch to ground pounding until you can pair up with a guy you do know can gun. I know it kinda sucks man but I deal with the same thing in the bomber (thats why I fly the fighter), line him up perfectly and nothing.

I wish I could help more but as a jet whore All I can do is remove the enemy jets,attack helo and AA for you, which btw doesnt matter how good the enemy attack helo is, will be shot down by me at every opportunity. I like to pave the way for the attack helo and bombers to pound armor and other ground targets. there is a pecking order in this game and it goes something like this...(I'm not the most eloquent person but here goes)

- jets kill other jets and helos (strafe AA every chance in transit)

facilitating...

-attack helos to kill armor (kill AA if necessary)

facilitating...

-armor that kills infantry

facilitating...

-infantry to cap flags


It really is that simple IMHO however there are always exceptions which is why you should stay flexible, but when I'm up in the air I know what my mission is and I carry it out with the objective to win the match, while flying around looking for targets I watch my mini map, if you spot helos or other targets I look to see whos spotting it since if your outside my mini map I wont see the exact target but I still fly by and take note of what your spotted message said and your apc spotted or helo will get strafed. If the infantry manage to cap the airfield and I dont have to worry about jets, I will start bombing all vehicles ahead of that squad as they advance on the next flag (ground support).

If you want to fly an attack helo souljah I invite you to come to ||3rb|| ranked server on July 17, log onto our teamspeak server and let me know your get there(ip for teamspeak is on 3rdranger.org website ). Join the side I'm on and I'll clear the skies for you no problem, also in a pinch I can gun in a helo but pfefer to pilot, I hope this at least helps out a little since you now have a known place you can play to avoid alot of the things you spoke of above. Btw there are quite a few capable helo gunners here too. Ya cant blame people who are new to the helo for trying though they have to learn somehow, but yeah it does suck to go along for the ride when they are learning, so keep your head up :)

||3RB||MOBB

A jet pilot who actually takes out other jets? not something I see often lol. Im not a Jet whore or really any vehicle whore I like using all vehicles, but if your skill lies in the Jet then no problem. I like to see that though.

A few days ago me and another pilot were on Taraba he is a pretty good pilot, so I was using the laser guided missiles, and this one guy in a MIG kept taking us out, but wheres the other Pilot thats in the Fighter Jet? floating around bombing rather than taking out an enemy jet, therefore we got taken out a few times as the jets pretty slow and sluggish, the F15 that is.

I pilot but always take out enemy Jets before I move onto taking out troops and tanks etc. I can dodge Jet pilots easily enough in a helicopter, well 9/10 they don't kill me unless they are good and use the cannon at quite far back while still going fast.

Ghost I'll check that out.

[simon1973]

Re: The patience is running out...

Why is it so hard to understand that jets will ALWAYS own you, no matter what. Thats how it is supposed to be. Unless, of course, you use Teamwork.

Try flying an F35 on Oman in Tactical Gamers. They got a guy on every single god damn stinger. All of them are communicating and owning your ***. You get up, waste flares on one then another 2 come after you and they force you up high and you cant fight. Got to divebomb all of them. Thats what teamwork does.

You arent supposed to battle Jets alone. You are supposed to spot them and hide like a little baby. Thats how it should be.

And dont say that choppers are overpowered. They have a crapload of counters. Stingers, FAVs, PKM, Antitank, Tank main gun, and even regular small arms fire and M95 fire. So if a chopper is owning you, its your fault.

Oh and before you tell someone not to say a word, learn to spell that word. POSSESS.

Very well said. More people work as a team the better the game. EA should think about that and a patch.

[Eternal-Souljah]

Re: The patience is running out...

Why is it so hard to understand that jets will ALWAYS own you, no matter what. Thats how it is supposed to be. Unless, of course, you use Teamwork.

Try flying an F35 on Oman in Tactical Gamers. They got a guy on every single god damn stinger. All of them are communicating and owning your ***. You get up, waste flares on one then another 2 come after you and they force you up high and you cant fight. Got to divebomb all of them. Thats what teamwork does.

You arent supposed to battle Jets alone. You are supposed to spot them and hide like a little baby. Thats how it should be.

And dont say that choppers are overpowered. They have a crapload of counters. Stingers, FAVs, PKM, Antitank, Tank main gun, and even regular small arms fire and M95 fire. So if a chopper is owning you, its your fault.

Oh and before you tell someone not to say a word, learn to spell that word. POSSESS.

Just want to add that the reason why alot of people don't play as a team by sitting on a Stinger each for the whole round is boredom if you like. People want points, people want kills, medals etc, otherwise if I had my way when Commanding, I'd have a couple of people defending each capture that the team makes, but I know its near enough impossible to get people to do that in a public server.