No Jets in 2142 (carrot is really excited)

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  • imported_RpTheHotrod

    #46
    Re: No Jets in 2142 (carrot is really excited)

    The only real problem I saw "vehicle"-wise in BF2 was the jets. Cars, APCs, tanks, and even choppers can be taken down if people work together. However, jets are practically immune to being killed without another jet. AA rarely hits, and if it does, it never blows them up....they just fly back to repair.

    People say the counter is another jet. If you have a problem, throwing in the same problem is not a solution. An overpowered thing shouldn't have itself as its own counter.

    I figured I'd try to fly a jet. I took off for the first time with no joystick (mouse and keyboard only) and I was completely blowing away the enemy team with very little effort and absolutely no risk outside of other jets. It's very overpowered. AA is useless because of the reduced range. The jets can gun away the AA placement before AA can even begin to lock on.

    Other than that though, I don't think armor is a real problem with those who work together. If I see armor coming, I re-spawn as an AT upon death.

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    • sw1ftx

      #47
      Re: No Jets in 2142 (carrot is really excited)

      My gfx card is crying right now.

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      • Revoluti0n
        Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 3032

        #48
        Re: SCREW THE MUTHAF-ing JETS!!! WOOOT@!$@!#!@

        Originally posted by Sir. FordMustang
        Well, there isn't helis either, they're hybrids. Plus we have mechs wich will be uber killing machines in the hands of a good pilot, like jets.
        True, Im sure once that game is out someone will find plenty of things to complain about too.

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        • imported_bigpappa
          Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 2159

          #49
          Re: No Jets in 2142 (carrot is really excited)

          Originally posted by da mighty carrot
          YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!!! JETS ARE GONE IN 2142!!! WOOT WOOT WOOT!!! HALELUJAH!!!!! JESUS BE PRAISED!!!

          http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/ba...3598&page=2&q=


          check it out...second page woot!!! new screens too

          i cant wait for the assualt pod whining posts.

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          • XmetallicaXguitarstX
            Member
            • Jul 2006
            • 3014

            #50
            Re: No Jets in 2142 (carrot is really excited)

            Originally posted by RpTheHotrod
            The only real problem I saw "vehicle"-wise in BF2 was the jets. Cars, APCs, tanks, and even choppers can be taken down if people work together. However, jets are practically immune to being killed without another jet. AA rarely hits, and if it does, it never blows them up....they just fly back to repair.

            Ummm... no.

            AA ALWAYS hits, at least one shot.

            And you shouldn't die in the AA, because you are supposed to leave right after you shoot.

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            • Blades

              #51
              Re: No Jets in 2142 (carrot is really excited)

              Yeah Met is right. AA will ALWAYS hit a plane. Even a J10. But the essex wont for some gay reason.

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              • DarQraven
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 145

                #52
                Re: No Jets in 2142 (carrot is really excited)

                Personally I hope they will take bf2142 vehicles a bit in the direction of BF:MC on x360 (yeah, it's a console/arcade shooter, but the vehicles are really balanced, I'm trying to focus on that)

                The helos are really strong, real killing machines, pretty easy to maneuver, but the AA options are just really good too. You've got the laser target lock aka missile strike. Youve got the AA that locks on if you target the plane/helo for long enough, and really follows that lock, you've got the snipers that can shoot through the windows (not just 1 unlock)...all in all, a heli will pwn you if you meet it face to face, but if you are in the advantage considering cover, nearby AA and backup from teammates, you should have no problem taking the bugger out of commission.
                That's the kind of vehicle style I'd like to see. Strong attack (useful for troop support), but also weak when attacked by AA.(keeps it fair.)

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                • XmetallicaXguitarstX
                  Member
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 3014

                  #53
                  Re: No Jets in 2142 (carrot is really excited)

                  Originally posted by Sir. Blades
                  Yeah Met is right. AA will ALWAYS hit a plane. Even a J10. But the essex wont for some gay reason.
                  Yeah exactly... I think it should be the other way around though..

                  The only time AA might not work, is if you time your flares perfect and get out of the way.

                  But 90% of the time, at least one will hit, regardless of flares.

                  Un-flared, 100% at least 1 will hit.

                  Originally posted by DarQraven
                  Personally I hope they will take bf2142 vehicles a bit in the direction of BF:MC on x360 (yeah, it's a console/arcade shooter, but the vehicles are really balanced, I'm trying to focus on that)

                  The helos are really strong, real killing machines, pretty easy to maneuver, but the AA options are just really good too. You've got the laser target lock aka missile strike. Youve got the AA that locks on if you target the plane/helo for long enough, and really follows that lock, you've got the snipers that can shoot through the windows (not just 1 unlock)...all in all, a heli will pwn you if you meet it face to face, but if you are in the advantage considering cover, nearby AA and backup from teammates, you should have no problem taking the bugger out of commission.
                  That's the kind of vehicle style I'd like to see. Strong attack (useful for troop support), but also weak when attacked by AA.(keeps it fair.)


                  That is EXACTLY how it is in this game... and I don't ****ing understand why people bitch about it.

                  If you get a ****ty pilot or gunner, expect to die... and really fast.


                  If you are a good team and you are good in the chopper, you SHOULD be killing everyone and every thing.

                  You are perfectly able to be shot down if the other team just thinks about it.

                  There are sooo many ways... everyone on the team can go M95 and just blow the thing up in like 2 seconds. Man the AA's... blow it up with a jet... ANYTHING...

                  It all boils down to this.

                  Your team has a vehicle to COUNTER that vehicle.. If your vehicles fail at that... guess what? It's their fault, and your team sucks, and you should either A) switch teams or B) find a new server.

                  If you lost possesion of your vehicles.. well guess what... your team just sucks balls and you should switch.


                  But yeah.. that's why I don't understand all this ****ing bitching going on about vehicles... Everything is PERFECTLY EVEN. It's not like one side has 5 jets and the other has NOTHING.

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                  • Sub_zer0

                    #54
                    Re: No Jets in 2142 (carrot is really excited)

                    jet things were confirmed and shown at e3 and in pcgamer..

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                    • squizz

                      #55
                      Re: No Jets in 2142 (carrot is really excited)

                      I just hope they c4 proof the legs of the mechs from friendly fire....I predict most mechs won't see actual combat the first couple of days after release. I've never cared about gettin the helo or jet or tank. But i'm itchin to see how the mechs run after having played mechwarrior 3,4 and mercenaries. If I don't like, I'm movin to quake wars, the Mektek team has already planned on making a battletech mod on that engine.

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                      • BIGkingDONG

                        #56
                        Re: No Jets in 2142 (carrot is really excited)

                        no jets . . . .YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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