Infantry Only Mode - Poll

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Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

is a great idea to make ultimate nerfing? skill to what? revive? snipe? You can make those with vehicles in the map. The lack of skill is why dice is making this mode. For skill less players like you that dont take time to use the tank to kill the ohter armor or change to AT and kill it. O forget. You are busy in the top of a building sniping or revining and getting killed by the armor you dind't want to change kit and kill with the AT kit

Yea but that's your opinion and they way you see things.

The way I see things is, in IO play, a squad should have more than 1 medic. If the squad is trying to take a well defended flag and the medics are doing their jobs and reviving/healing, it's not stats padding, it's doing their jobs. All be it, mega points can be had.

Which brings me to the next issue, points and ranked or unranked. If this IO mode makes it to the final 1.4 patch and is NOT ranked, I seriously doubt I'd play it. Only because, as mentioned in other threads, the servers will not be populated because everybody is too concerned with points in this game.

PRMM is cool and admittedly, I haven't checked for servers in the last couple weeks but, I stopped playing it because it's too hard to find a low ping, populated server.

It seems that most people are either emphatically for or emphatically against this being ranked (of those who are not against it period). I feel the reason for this is not that difficult. If against IO being ranked, the main reason: non IO server's will not be populated because everybody will be playing on the IO servers, i.e., the l337 pilots and armor drivers, the same ones that have like 150,000 global points and 140,000 of them in jet/chopper/tank/apc, will have nobody to kill. Which, BTW, in my opinion, is a form of stats padding the way others see medics as stats padders.

For those that are against it NOT being ranked: the servers will not be populated because, and, here's the difference, no global points.

I really do feel that both these reasons, the for and against, are true and 100% accurate. However, I am one man, with one opinion, and cannot assume that most people agree with me. The only way to be sure is approve it for ranked play. Either I'll be correct or incorrect but there will be irrefutable proof by looking at which servers are populated. If it happens the way I believe it will, the IO servers will in fact be populated and the non IO servers will not. The pilots will just have to get a flight sim game or something but at least the majority, and that's the key, will get what they want, a ranked IO option. If I am wrong, I would have no problem accepting it and play cs:s.

I do not want to turn this into a flame war with you personally Mr. Pmosh because although I have not met you, you seem an intelligent human being and that alone, I believe, is enough for you to deserve respect and be allowed to have an opinion. I just don't think the minority should win out over the majority.

Maybe there should have been 2 more options in this poll: ranked or unranked. Would be interesting to see results.... '

Oh, and in case anybody is wondering, I voted yes.

[Red Devil]

Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

The thing about making everything selectable at runtime is that it makes those selections self-regulating. If people don't like that selection they don't participate and the server owner is forced by that lack of participation to make different selections, selections the community wants to play.

When that happens, all the complaining about AC or Armor go away and the players who like to play a certain game mode gravitate to the servers that offer the modes they like.

It creates a real smorgasbord of play modes for players to choose from. For instance, playing Karkand with just Snipers and no Armor is excellent, *especially* at night. Playing Zatar or Gulf with just Armor is a blast.

I can do that now in SP by tweaking the files, but having it all selectable at runtime would *really* drive interest.

It really would not be that hard to do. Like I said in another thread, just make more subcommands for gameLogic is all:

gameLogic.infantryOnlyOmit Ahe_ah1z
gameLogic.infantryOnlyOmit Ahe_havoc
gameLogic.infantryOnlyOmit Ahe_z10
gameLogic.infantryOnlyOmit Air_f35b
gameLogic.infantryOnlyOmit Air_j10
gameLogic.infantryOnlyOmit Air_su30mkk

They can't completely re-make the game, so some things aren't good.. like creating each and seperate mode for each class/type of vehicle.. I would rather that be decided by the type of map/mission it is.. like for example a hypothetical mode called assassination, it would be infantry only with or without transport vehicles, and the environment would most likely be at night, near a few buildings or something. If you have armor only, what would be the best environment for armor only? An open battlefield obviously, but then it wouldn't be as fun as without bombers, and AT soldiers. Infantry only reaches out to those who simply enjoy the infantry aspect of the game.. running around a huge dense environment, using squad tactics, capturing points quickly, doing ambushes on other squads, etc..

If infantry only will be created as a mode, I'm sure there will be a filter to use in the server browser. Should be.

[Donkey]

Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

Superdonkey....

Dont take this as rubbing it in, or me gloating, but do you see now that people DO want the option to play infantry only by the results (thus far) of this poll (currently 64% for, 28% against) as i previously said?

I really dont mind it...

However I would like some transports to stay...

Including transport choppers on larger maps.... DC had some maps like this and they where very cool....

[Quatman]

Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

I'm glad it's an option and yes, I would play infantry only every once and a while. But, BF2 and the rest of the Battlefield series (1942, Vietnam) is known for vehicles. That's what makes it different from other games.

[beastoftheeast]

Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

playing on a map today w/ infantry only, i had a blast.

[Harmor]

Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

Idea, yes, but current implementation is prone to exploitation and won't be fun.

Instead of this implementation what if we had a 'vehicle-lite' version like this:

• Replace Tanks/APC spawns with Heavy Jeeps
• Replace AA Vehicle spawns with Light Jeep
• Remove Jets
• Replace Attack Helicopters with Transport Helicopters (i.e. USMC carrier would have 3 Blackhawks)
• In AF replace Littlebirds with Transport Helicopters (some have suggested replacing Attack Helicopters with Littlebirds, but as we know Littlebirds own in the sky vs. infantry)

That's it. Its really simple and would allow all classes to still partisipate. See if you make Infantry Only mode, as implemented the Medic becomes godly while the Engineer becomes useless.

playing on a map today w/ infantry only, i had a blast.

Don't you mean Medic-Only mode?

[Doctor]

Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

I'm glad it's an option and yes, I would play infantry only every once and a while. But, BF2 and the rest of the Battlefield series (1942, Vietnam) is known for vehicles. That's what makes it different from other games.

The diffrence is bf1942 never needed a infantry only mode cause it had 100 times better vehicle balance where bf2 has zero to none

[Donkey]

Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

If your going to run a duplicate poll at least set it up right

um ther is no stfu whiners option and one poll option has a spelling mistake in. (rammer any how)
me i think its a good idea its a nice thing to have you can play it or can not the more options teh better.

please enlighten me o wise ones....

I feel a lot of this hatred toward vehicles would have been solved if they balanced the vehicles in the game a little better in particular the planes... Had they given the AT guy the option to also be AA with a stinger this may have solved many problems...it worked for BFV....

[venny]

Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

cant wait to try out this new mode. ea should come out with more modes in time to come.

[Donkey]

Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

cant wait to try out this new mode. ea should come out with more modes in time to come.

They should fix the "mode" they have now first so that it works flawlessly...then add new modes!

[Mekstizzle]

Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

Tbh if it's ranked then forget it and let server owners say "anybody that uses a vehicle will be banned and reported" that way it will be fun infantry without the BS HP increase/spawn time increase...

[TP.BigBoss]

Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

I run around on the ground just as much as I hop in a vehicle...

Vehicles if anything just add more immersion to the game having to HIDE from them...being able to hear a chopper or tank in the distance take cover and then take them out without them notcing you IMO is the uber SKILL....but I guess that is to hard for you

I'll give you that it is a thrill when you hear that chopper coming in the distance and you just dont know what the hell to do, fear takes over.

[pertti_pasanen]

Re: Infantry Only Mode - Poll

Idea, yes, but current implementation is prone to exploitation and won't be fun.

Instead of this implementation what if we had a 'vehicle-lite' version like this:

• Replace Tanks/APC spawns with Heavy Jeeps
• Replace AA Vehicle spawns with Light Jeep
• Remove Jets
• Replace Attack Helicopters with Transport Helicopters (i.e. USMC carrier would have 3 Blackhawks)
• In AF replace Littlebirds with Transport Helicopters (some have suggested replacing Attack Helicopters with Littlebirds, but as we know Littlebirds own in the sky vs. infantry)

Quoted for truth. My sentiments word for word.