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  • Michael_lambert

    #1

    Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

    Okay,


    So i am new and most likely going to bring up a subject that has already been beaten to death, how ever i have searched it and can not find this thread!


    I understand that "pilots" should be the ones flying which is fine its all about winning the battle and the only way to do that is by having people use there skills! However what drives me up a total wall is when i spawn grab a empty APC and find 10 freaking players hanging out on the Helli Pad or Airstrip waiting for a plane or helicopter to spawn! I run up offer to pick them up and make a run for our battle and no one get ons!


    I do not know enough about the game, only been playing it now for a day! how ever i most likely should play single player to get the hang of it but have more fun in the multilayer environment, But how can one check there orders?? and is there no way to ensure that people are at least trying to follow there orders? I mean to have 25 players in game and to have 10 of them fighting over the flight vehicles 10 of them racing around in some on land vehicle ( backing up over there team ) and to have 5 players trying to complete there mission but getting there a$$'s handed to them.

    How does one continue to enjoy such a game? Given i have yet to find a decent server to play on where there is some organization.. But crist if you are going to spawn as a medic.. Why the hell would you want to be fighting for a Jet!!! Or off a mile away from the battle doing jumps in a Buggie??

    sorry guys, call it a vent call it what you want.. But there are some legit questions!

    How can i see what mission orders i need to complete?
    How can i report idiots to a Admin
    Where can i find decent servers to play/learn at with some organization

    Where is a good FAQ or a detailed descriptions of all the functions and abilities in game? The users manual sucks!


    Thanks
    Michael
  • Talus
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 6854

    #2
    Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

    Find a friend/friends to play with.

    Get on VOIP or TeamSpeak or something similar.

    Squad Up.

    Ask Commander for Orders.

    Follow Orders.

    Stick together.

    Ignore jets and attack choppers.

    Have fun.

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    • AP_piano295

      #3
      Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

      Originally posted by Talus
      Find a friend/friends to play with.

      Get on VOIP or TeamSpeak or something similar.

      Squad Up.

      Ask Commander for Orders.

      Follow Orders.

      Stick together.

      Ignore jets and attack choppers.

      Have fun.
      I still dont understand why all servers dont use the ingame voip I prefer its setup over teamspeak.

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      • Talus
        Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 6854

        #4
        Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

        I don't use it often because I don't like having to hold down a key to speak It IS a great idea though..and it works. Great for public players.

        I use a private TS server because I'm ALWAYS online with friends. The down side to that is, everybody on TS hears my cursing.

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        • Michael_lambert

          #5
          Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

          Well in game, It says the Commander has given me orders, Yet i have no idea what they are??

          how do i find out what my orders are?
          Do i get additonal points or anything for completing the orders?

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          • [2bit]Modmaven

            #6
            Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

            Yes, sadly there is a lack of really good servers. Here is one that I play at exclusively...

            70.85.234.234

            It is admined by all people that are at least 21 and mature. We always use in game voice (VOIP) and issue/follow orders. Keep in mind that the server usually doesnt get going to till about 8pm central time. Welcome to the Battlefield.

            Go to http://www.secretsofbattlefied.com to learn some nice tips and tricks.

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            • triumph

              #7
              Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

              I can't hear people when they use VOIP and VOIP doesn't allow for binds to other squads or Channel commander. I've used a Push to Talk hotkey for two years now for bf games, caps lock.

              BF2 pubbing is sandbox, do anything for yourself, how can you expect people who just want to mess around to do anything involving teamwork when the games design is basicaly shouting go mess around at them for public play? Go join a clan or a tourney and find your organized fun that way instead of with the common masses.

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              • Sir. Blackhawk 5

                #8
                Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

                That is why our team won.

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                • [2bit]Modmaven

                  #9
                  Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

                  Originally posted by Michael_lambert
                  Well in game, It says the Commander has given me orders, Yet i have no idea what they are??

                  how do i find out what my orders are?
                  Do i get additonal points or anything for completing the orders?
                  Ok, if you are the squad leader, the commander can give you orders. You can either accept or ignore these rules by pushing page up to accept or page down to reject. Once you hit page up, it will give you a little symbol on your mini map with a line to it. Typically, these are attack orders with a small orange sword symbol and an orange line from your present location, to wherever he wants you to attack. Tip, you can zoom your mini map in and out with the N key. You can also look at the whole map by hitting M.

                  As a squad leader you can also issue orders to your squad by hitting caps lock to bring up the map, right click on a flag lets say, and then select the appropriate order, like attack.

                  You get no additional points for completing orders. But, as long as the commander isnt an idiot, he should have some idea about what he is talking about, and give you a logical order. Some commanders though, are fairly hands off, and do not give direct orders to squads. I tend to be like this when I command, as I use voice to give them orders or tell them where the enemy is.

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                  • step2ice

                    #10
                    Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

                    Originally posted by Michael_lambert
                    Okay,


                    So i am new and most likely going to bring up a subject that has already been beaten to death, how ever i have searched it and can not find this thread!


                    I understand that "pilots" should be the ones flying which is fine its all about winning the battle and the only way to do that is by having people use there skills! However what drives me up a total wall is when i spawn grab a empty APC and find 10 freaking players hanging out on the Helli Pad or Airstrip waiting for a plane or helicopter to spawn! I run up offer to pick them up and make a run for our battle and no one get ons!
                    1. Flying requires no real skill. It just requires some practice.
                    People who claim to be pilots and camp airfileds/helipads should be shot on sight even if that is counted as TK.

                    2. BF is and always was a game where you could fight on land, in air and on water. That is were the fun lies. That is why I like the game.
                    Ppl. who claim a certain part of the game for themselves should either be kicked from public servers or should buy their own server and password -protect them.

                    You could say the problem comes with the ppl. thinking they have to call themself pilots or that the game doesn't offer a way to get rid of those ppl. with like say flying tickets or spawn control.

                    Either way it's a problem which plagues BF since 1942.

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                    • davelisowski

                      #11
                      Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

                      You can request orders by pressing T and selecing "Request Orders." But as far as other people following orders, there is no way you can know unless you are commander.

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                      • Michael_lambert

                        #12
                        Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

                        Well,

                        I will opening admit that i totally suck at the game, But i do follow instructions well and i do attempt to play at my best!

                        For example yesterday while playing i was told to hang back and watch one of the flags that where way away from the action, not fond of it as well to be honest kind of hard to get a score when there is nothing to shoot at! But what ever i did, Grabbed the sniper gear and found a comfy place and sat there, Listened to some music bored out of my mind. Well people where spawning.. i was being told off as i was not doing anything.. i advised them i was instructed to do this and they still insulted!

                        Finally about 10 Min's later I'm all alone and a APC hulls up to our Flag everyone ways miles away!! I called for backup and over about a 2 min span i was able to pick off all 3 players in the APC. Weird as its only a game but it was a exciting feeling!

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                        • thecolorpink

                          #13
                          Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

                          i can see why 3/4 of the team is waiting for a jet or helo, cause its more fun killing **** with them. i love taking the helo and having everyone waiting for me to die so they can get it next but i dont end up dieing, and by the time i do die, they got so bored waiting that they went to go play infantry so i can have the helo again. im super awesome. i personally could care less about winning or losing, just having fun. and being in a helo is fun for me.

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                          • [2bit]Modmaven

                            #14
                            Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

                            step2ice. There is nothing wrong with excelling at one aspect of the battlefield that you enjoy. There is skill involved in all aspects of this game. Practice of course makes everyone better at anything!

                            Of course, just standing around at an airfield for ten minutes doing nothing certainly is pretty lame. I typically just stay away from airfields for this very reason. I fly decently well, but there are plenty of people that think its the only thing you can do in this game. They need to branch out and try some other things. As you mentioned, thats what make the game great as well. There are so many things to do and try and excel in. Everyone finds their niche, but its good to be flexible too.

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                            • step2ice

                              #15
                              Re: Hard to win when 3/4 of the team is......

                              Originally posted by thecolorpink
                              i can see why 3/4 of the team is waiting for a jet or helo, cause its more fun killing **** with them. i love taking the helo and having everyone waiting for me to die so they can get it next but i dont end up dieing,
                              It's ppl. like you why the game is so ******.

                              Ego trip, nothing else it is what you do.

                              If you having fun in your helo, thats ok. But how about you give other ppl. the bird when you were shut down!?

                              super awesome
                              Sounds more like super retarded to me.

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