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  • zipp0r

    #16
    Re: Reload rate on jets

    Originally posted by Blud
    Actually, they are great suggestions--make it take a ton of time to rearm--perfect!! Make it so jets can actually be destroyed-as they sit on the deck being rearmed--PERFECT!!!

    You are just ****ed because these ideas would actully stop all you jet whores who rape and circle bomb and RUIN the game!!! Go for it E.A/DICE--balance the game!!!!

    I would also like to add more AA--that they planes can't see or lock on to , as well as plane respawning before the pilot so that others can get the plane.

    Actually it is you and your kind the are ****ing me off because ALOT of players actually want to stop your point grabbing lame arse circle bombing, base raping indestructible B.S.


    AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA

    go back to karkand nub!

    Originally posted by troybob
    pilot class will NEVER be added to the game. why reward people who can load a map faster than others?
    exactly, good thought, but in practice hard to implement.

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    • Chris_Redfield
      Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 5986

      #17
      Re: Reload rate on jets

      Originally posted by Blud
      Actually, they are great suggestions--make it take a ton of time to rearm--perfect!! Make it so jets can actually be destroyed-as they sit on the deck being rearmed--PERFECT!!!
      A jet will be shot down on the carrier, potentially never being able to take off. Although its being defended on the carrier, imagine what will happen when on the airfield. This is also what it will do. You will be geting air support once every 3-5 minutes. Which means- those tanks and APCs that will be closing in to your flag, will (thats right) be enjoying free kills. If you force a pilot to land because he has to take 2 bombs, spend 3-5 minutes to do so, thats not balance.

      Im going to speak Karkand language now, so you understand what Im saying. Imagine youre in a tank, and you have only 2 rounds, plus 50 MG rounds, which you can reload only in the uncappable, or at the warehouse for example. Now, after youve shot those 2 rounds, you have to haul your ass way back and reload, then come back. What happens if you miss? What will you do then? What happens when you meet AT guys on the way, and youre on 0/0? I guess youre happy that its balanced.

      You are just ****ed because these ideas would actully stop all you jet whores who rape and circle bomb and RUIN the game!!! Go for it E.A/DICE--balance the game!!!!
      Ive actually posted some ideas myself that most jet pilots would object. Its not the points I want, I want to fulfill my role as air support. Thats why 90% of the time Im in a squad, bombing flags my squad is about to take and taking out armor/APCs my squad is about to encounter. Your stupid generalization that all pilots are after points is just another proof that you have yet to take off. Just a kid who has been killed one too many times for his liking.

      I would also like to add more AA--that they planes can't see or lock on to , as well as plane respawning before the pilot so that others can get the plane.
      So you want a plane respawn on 5 seconds and pilot respawn on 10-15? Man, you wont even feel jets being shot down. Youll just feel a little longer pause between bombing runs. Shows exactly how much mind you put into thinking about BALANCE.

      Actually it is you and your kind the are ****ing me off because ALOT of players actually want to stop your point grabbing lame arse circle bombing, base raping indestructible B.S.
      LOL...

      Indestructible? To your AK? Sure. So stop shooting me with that god damn assault rifle and get into an AA!

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      • sithdemon
        Member
        • Jul 2005
        • 348

        #18
        Re: Reload rate on jets

        As a infantry, armour and AA whore, that plays on all maps, I'm willing to agree with most of the pilots here. There are ways to get around planes, or take them head on.

        I personally take APCs, over tanks because it seems harder to get bombed if I keep it moving. Tanks can survive, but it's luck, and having another armour peice repairing you the minute you get bombed. buggys are a decent option too, though some really good pilots can kill you with the guns, I suggest weaving a little over open terrain.

        As for AA, I have a guide in this forums. My ratio is staying up around 2/1,almost 3/1. Aside from that I have the sadisfaction of seeing planes running off scared, even if I don't get kills, I help my team alot using the AA correctly. I wish maps like oman and clean sweep had mobile AA, stingers don't cut it most of the time, but they CAN ACTUALLY BE USEFUL, TRUST ME. Aside from that ANY map with mobile, even vicious zatar, is balanced. It's just that pilots are generally better then AA. There are few AA whores, it's rare to get two of them working together, but planes in formation happen alot more often, or atleast fighters helping bombers get enemy fighters off their butt.

        nothing needs to change in my eyes, we just need more full time AA whores, that cover areas, or armour columns. and perhaps the jsf vs J-10, but thats really it IMO.

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        • XmetallicaXguitarstX
          Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 3014

          #19
          Re: Reload rate on jets

          Originally posted by sithdemon
          Tanks can survive, but it's luck, and having another armour peice repairing you the minute you get bombed. buggys are a decent option too, though some really good pilots can kill you with the guns, I suggest weaving a little over open terrain.

          You won't survive if I see you in that tank or buggy



          Hey everyone that says the stationary AA sucks, thats cause they dont know how to use it.

          If you just sit in the ****ing AA don't expect to stay alive... thats all I have to say..

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          • kenof2142

            #20
            Re: Reload rate on jets

            Originally posted by Blud
            Actually, they are great suggestions--make it take a ton of time to rearm--perfect!! Make it so jets can actually be destroyed-as they sit on the deck being rearmed--PERFECT!!!
            Ever heard of AT class or AA? Guess not.

            Originally posted by Blud
            You are just ****ed because these ideas would actully stop all you jet whores who rape and circle bomb and RUIN the game!!! Go for it E.A/DICE--balance the game!!!!
            Whiners like you get EVERYTHING in the game balanced/nerfed. The game isn't supposed to be balanced if it did no one would be playing. It's like saying the medic on foot should be able to take out a jet with his shock paddles...gimme a break. Jets own the skys and you should play smarter on maps that have them same goes for tanks/apc's etc. On a 64 player karkand how many guys do you see are AT....A LOT.


            Originally posted by Blub
            I would also like to add more AA--that they planes can't see or lock on to , as well as plane respawning before the pilot so that others can get the plane.
            AA is fine, it's the idiots that don't know how to properly use it that complain that more AA needs to be added.


            Originally posted by Blub
            Actually it is you and your kind the are ****ing me off because ALOT of players actually want to stop your point grabbing lame arse circle bombing, base raping indestructible B.S.
            Take preventative measures or be on a team that has decent pilots and you will rarely see jets or you could simply become a better infantry player and not circle around a flag waiting to get a big bomb or arty to your face.

            *looks at quote in sig*

            Case in point .

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            • unununium

              #21
              Re: Reload rate on jets

              They were going to have a pilot class in the game and they took it out for a reason. The new jets are really weak against AA but no matter how many times it's said, you always see the same couple of people per server shooting down planes. If they're such a nuisance don't quit and come here to pout, get in some AA and shoot those slow fast-movers down.

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              • Pilo-II

                #22
                Re: Reload rate on jets

                LETS GIVE A DELAY FOR EVERYTHING! :)


                Hey, that guy keeps killing me all the time... there should be a delay for people to spawn! Like, 1 minute!

                Hell, lets delay the time from when you press the trigger to shots being fired, lets give a delay of 5 seconds for that, so that we could run away from danger...


                Pilot kit?? How would that work?! Who gets the kit?? Higher rank? Lower ranks would never get to fly then.....................!

                P.S. When is my next rank on these forums!?!?! :laugh: I'm a Chief Warrant Officer 3 atm :laugh:

                Edit 2: oh hell TBF2 guys!!! Did you copy Dice/EA and gave a rank system on these forums to make people most more to get their 'ranks'?????????!!! :laugh: !!!

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                • solofowaffles
                  Member
                  • May 2006
                  • 4306

                  #23
                  Re: Reload rate on jets

                  i think reload rates are fine as they are.

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                  • Chris_Redfield
                    Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 5986

                    #24
                    Re: Reload rate on jets

                    I was going through localization files, and apparently the game has been dumbified pretty much, to keep it simple and whatnot.

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                    • Galdigor

                      #25
                      Re: Reload rate on jets

                      if you wanna change something, change the maps a lil bit the re-arm place for yets shouldn't b @ the airstrip if you wanna land so you wont get the TK's but the problem is that if another yet wants 2 land... you will crash so you will need 2 new landing areas so that means you **** up the whole game so stop asking about changes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                      • hebrewhammer14

                        #26
                        Re: Reload rate on jets

                        a limited amount of pilot kits would be great for the serious gamers, but DICE will NOT, i repeat NOT, EVER grant this as it would cause people who play to annoy other people and noobs to stop playing and tell their friends to stop buying the game. maybe DICE could make it an admin decision so serious servers could have serious players/pilots and noobpubbers could have noob pubbers standing around waiting for jets

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                        • N2K

                          #27
                          Re: Reload rate on jets

                          Then make tanks re-arm and reapair only at uncap. bases

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                          • mofo.au

                            #28
                            Re: Reload rate on jets

                            Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
                            I was going through localization files, and apparently the game has been dumbified pretty much, to keep it simple and whatnot.
                            :nod: This a "Gung-ho, balls n all, shoot em up" type game, Not a sim, if you were to land one of these things..............
                            Too many extras to add......For one. Hangers on the threshold????:laugh:

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                            • Mr NiceGuy

                              #29
                              Re: Reload rate on jets

                              Originally posted by Jaeron
                              OK so this will probably **** off all the pilots here but I think that there should be some sort of delay in reloading bombs at the airstrip. Right now, as it stands, they can bomb your flag, fly back and reload and be back in time to bomb you again as soon as you spawn.

                              Ideas:
                              1. make landing a requirement to reload bombs (flyby can rearm missles and guns) I know this would suck because of TKers
                              2. have a rearm timer at the airstrip similar to the artillery timer (possibly even a missle depot next to the airfield that can be taken out like normal assets)

                              I also like that idea about a pilot kit. give them a knife, pistol, and a spiffy flightsuit... nothing else. this would keep the stupid TKers from taking this kit and using the jet/chopper as a one way taxi

                              ok flame on...
                              YESSSS PLEASE!!! Only reason i dont play "air" maps.... :p

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                              • Kaimahi

                                #30
                                Re: Reload rate on jets

                                I'll leave jets as is as long as I can have an emote that gives them the middle finger as they bomb me after they have blown up the fixed AA they know is there so I have nothing to fight back with (sorry long sentence)

                                up front I despise jets, they are the reason I rarely play vanilla. In saying that I would not nerf them as they do take skill to fly and the people most have a go at are usually those who have put in the hours so they can own in them. I would however only have them on maps like Fushe where really you do not notice them as much because the area they have to cover is so vast. I would remove them from maps where the flags are fairly close together (i.e Dalian and yes I realise that is an aircraft carrier in the water just using the map to illustrate a point) as it is on those maps where you find the 'raping' occurs most as jets can fly circuits and rearm quickly compared to the larger maps.

                                P.S I wish people would stop comparing jets and tanks it's just not cricket and makes no sense at all.

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