Goodbye Kark...

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  • Thirdeyez

    #1

    Goodbye Kark...

    Kark is now dead to me, I have made it my goal to stay away from this map.
    AS of late the lowlifes have crawled from the gutters and really destroyed this infantry map.
    3 biggest reasons.. super medics..jump prone crouch spam...and the now abundant wall hack.

    I just returned from watching countless apon countless medics displaying the fine art of new and improved dolphin diving. I can take all the insta proning and hopping..but when the 2 are together and guys bounce down the street on there belly's..well thats when it comes to the point of "wtf am I playing a game were your ability to bounce on your stomache is a plausible means of offense and defense"
    Add in the fact that 99% of these acrobats are packing the best guns and self heals, and it gets even crazier. Youll notice packs of 5 or 6 in an orgy of belly humping tossing insta heals to one another and fighting over revives. You kill one or 2 and some monkey will bounce on by light you up and revive them..tossing him self an insta heal for good measure.

    And the wall glitching..wow..just wow.
    If it was bad duringhe turret spinning days..it is friggin sick now!
    Now youll see it on un-admined servers 1 out of every 3 rounds, sometimes every round!
    And the worse part, Im noticing high ranks partaking in it..it omes to the point were so many people are doing it its almost common.

    Ive actually been in servers as of late were the discussion from lower ranks was questioning the higher guys on the how they do the jump prone crouch in ways to map it or macro it..even the wall glitchingis a topic Ive heard discussed.
  • $kelet0r

    #2
    Re: Goodbye Kark...

    Karkand demonstrates the worst in people in a way no other map does
    Gamesmanship, exploiting, cheating, glitching, spamming, nading - it's been dead for me since the beginning - I wish I still had my ABK avatar
    Not to mention that it's a bad map - linear, unbalanced, reduced to the lowest common demoninator of infantry only almost because no one who plays can even deal with the few combat vehicles that are on the map. If you seriously believe that playing on foot in Karkand requires more skill than Fushe or Dalian for example you are certifiable. It's just so....cheap.

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    • zone36
      Member
      • Jul 2005
      • 852

      #3
      Re: Goodbye Kark...

      I actually like Karkand as a map in of itself, but yeah, it's majorly abused and exploited..

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      • HypnosisFX

        #4
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        dude i was playing at straferight server and i havnt seen the mec win one damn map in soooo long. Its like its rigged for the USMC to always win. Even when we held them to no flags but there own spawn and had there armor in total check we still lost. The only things peeps wanna do is grenade spam and load 30 snipers on 1 hill besides the massive armor whoring that goes on at the mec hotel. When i see a sniper do a roll prone and 1 shot kills me after i pumped him full of lead its just sad that peeps have to dig to the exploit to beat you in a 1vs1.

        The map is just one big cluster F*** of camping nubbys, yeah yeah u can spawn at the square or suburb but who the F wants to walk all the way back to the carnage.

        Idea's to stop armor whoring.

        *Increase AT attack power to the point that the tank is beeping
        *Common sense say go 5 AT's cause everybody knows that the hotel is gonna get camped hard.

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        • Doctor

          #5
          Re: Goodbye Kark...

          meh its the only map I play pretty much I don't enjoy the layout of any of the others wish they had more battlefield 1942 style maps like operation harvest

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          • Eternal-Souljah

            #6
            Re: Goodbye Kark...

            Rofl funny that because I left Kark a few months back, went in yesterday to see if any improvements, and nope its worse, the following happened within 10 minutes:

            .Grenade spam
            .Had to Swim thru medic and support bags
            .Got dived on by 30 people to revive me
            .Spawn raping outside the side of the alleyway
            .Bunny hoppers to grenade launching
            .That weird movement thing

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            • Sir. Blackhawk 5

              #7
              Re: Goodbye Kark...

              I dont like karkand anymore, and im starting to play less on City maps and wake. Start to focus on other maps in the game, like Zatar, FuSHee, Dragon Valley, and others. I started playing the non-popular maps, and the vehicle whoring is not so bad as expected. For once I see a parked J-10 for more than 2 mins. People in there have their combat level medium-high, Not much new guys, or very expert that is an ace at something. If you still dont like it, get a mod, NAW mod is an awesome mod and i reccomend it.

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              • DemonOfhatred

                #8
                Re: Goodbye Kark...

                I'm hopeing now that you are no longer playing karkand we wont have to hear your whiney-ass threads about getting pwned by medics and armor.

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                • wolfi

                  #9
                  Re: Goodbye Kark...

                  Originally posted by zone36
                  I actually like Karkand as a map in of itself, but yeah, it's majorly abused and exploited..
                  Have to agree here. I keep on playing it tho
                  You only need to know a few good servers, then its an awesome map :p

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                  • RedDot

                    #10
                    Re: Goodbye Kark...

                    I still like Karkand, main reason... I don't know, it's just fun (exempt for those super-medics and the guys under the hotel).

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                    • rsgx

                      #11
                      Re: Goodbye Kark...

                      I do like karkand, but it would be a lot better without the tanks and the noobish players there. It sucks when a tank has like 5 crates and 2 repair vehicles around it, making it invincible to AT rockets, and kills everybody. But I like how its crowded, it makes it really easy to find enemies.

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                      • N2K

                        #12
                        Re: Goodbye Kark...

                        I would like to see the top guy jump in a jet against me

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                        • BulletToothTony

                          #13
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                          I like Karkand because it is the best map for pimpin the single pump. :)

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                          • Revoluti0n
                            Member
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 3032

                            #14
                            Re: Goodbye Kark...

                            Originally posted by HypnosisFX
                            dude i was playing at straferight server and i havnt seen the mec win one damn map in soooo long. Its like its rigged for the USMC to always win. Even when we held them to no flags but there own spawn and had there armor in total check we still lost. The only things peeps wanna do is grenade spam and load 30 snipers on 1 hill besides the massive armor whoring that goes on at the mec hotel. When i see a sniper do a roll prone and 1 shot kills me after i pumped him full of lead its just sad that peeps have to dig to the exploit to beat you in a 1vs1.

                            The map is just one big cluster F*** of camping nubbys, yeah yeah u can spawn at the square or suburb but who the F wants to walk all the way back to the carnage.

                            Idea's to stop armor whoring.

                            *Increase AT attack power to the point that the tank is beeping
                            *Common sense say go 5 AT's cause everybody knows that the hotel is gonna get camped hard.
                            Common sense would tell you to spawn back a bit and move in towards the area of hostility. There are vehicle drops you know if you feel that walking 15 seconds in game is far too much to handle. You also mioght want to try and play on a different server if you are always losing on your favorite one.

                            As for stopping "armor whoring", it will not be happening any time soon, If someone has extensive time in a vehicle, jet, tank, or apc and they are good with it it's not whoring.
                            EA does not ned to make the AT stronger, they need to make the rockets stop going through every other object when whot within a 40m radius. Too bad EA cant patch brains.

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                            • imported_bigpappa
                              Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 2159

                              #15
                              Re: Goodbye Kark...

                              i used to hate karkand, cause no one would ever try to take any flags, but now i love it since i have given up on flag taking and started clay whoring at the hotel flag. fun times now.

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