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  • poisonsoul

    #16
    Re: Should heal packs self heal?

    I think that ammo packs and health packs should cause damage if hit by one. Which in turn can cause team damage.

    The only reason I say that is because haven't you ever been sneaking around or sniping and had a medic or support just start throwing all their supplies at you giving away your spot. Even though you haven't fired a shot or taken a hit.

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    • DemonOfhatred

      #17
      Re: Should heal packs self heal?

      Originally posted by bitvomit
      Or am I missing something that the holier than thou idiots that love exploits should clue me in on?
      Yes I will attempt to (hopefully not getting flamed in the process) clue you in.

      Its very simple. If it can be done people will do it. End of story.

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      • imported_Boots

        #18
        Re: Should heal packs self heal?

        Yeah, it's nice to be a medic... but there are also a lot of medic packs laying around (for those heals after pwnage)

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        • Private_Snowb@ll

          #19
          Re: Should heal packs self heal?

          All these little tricks and techniques for each class just add flavour to the game. I swear it'd be so boring if everyone used the same 'honourable' tactics and didnt use their kit to its full advantage. Fair enough, its a bit unfair him being able to self heal midfight, but its not THAT effective, besides, every class has its advantages, use them!

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          • Black_lagon

            #20
            Re: Should heal packs self heal?

            Yea you got pwnd with this way and know want another nerf oh my god.
            TBF2 forums are great in some ways but all those nerf topics are just sick lamo

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            • evilzucchini

              #21
              Re: Should heal packs self heal?

              Originally posted by bitvomit
              C'mon guys, what other fps games do you know of where players get infinite health packs and can toss them on the ground when they're getting owned? Doesn't that strike anyone as being even slightly unfair? I've been in situations as a medic where I could have died atleast 4 times yet I had plenty of health packs to keep me going. I could have healed four other players instead of myself. For the people that say use teamplay to take down the medics, aren't the medics that do this eschewing teamplay themselves? Or am I missing something that the holier than thou idiots that love exploits should clue me in on? The best way to balance this would be for medics to get bandaged up by other medics, not themselves. Same goes for support guys that throw themselves ammo to spam more nades.
              This is untrue on multiple levels. First, it is technically infinite, however, in practice, you can only have a certain number of med packs on the ground at a time and you can only throw a few within a certain time period and then uyou have to wait. On top of that, they take time to "trigger" so if you drop a med pack, its health is not instantly available to you.

              Medics having a med pack is certainly an advantage, however, it is not so overwhelmingly an advantage that there needs to be so many cries of "nerf."

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              • -=wKa=-Sauron

                #22
                Re: Should heal packs self heal?

                First you guys whine about the GL, that got nerfed, and now you whine about the medic? If medics can heal others why shouldn't they be able to heal themselves?

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                • redrider

                  #23
                  Re: Should heal packs self heal?

                  Look, there are three very important lessons to be learned here. First, the Assualt class has been over nerfed and this just proves it even if you had a gun with a nade launcher its still 50/50 chance that you are going to die. Second, some classes have more useful kit equipment than other classes. The only answer I know of is that if you think the medic kit is that good then why arent you playing medic? Third the best answer to a lone medic is two of any class. Kill the medic steal his kit revive the dead buddy, throw down a couple med packs, and swap kits too get your G3 back.
                  Personally, I think at that point in time you had the wrong kit for the situation. I have days where I always seem to have the wrong kit (ie. engineer vs. medic at 30 meters). It happens. Probably the last thing we need is to nerf anything any more than it already is. It would be nice though to have the same splash area for all the nades (not smoke granades) it would even things up a bit.
                  Im not saying theres anything wrong with self healing, it goes with the kit. You just have to remember that the medic is gonna do that and change your tactics to be able to kill him any way. Thats why some times I run away, If the medic chases me he leaves his med packs behind and if he dont then I wont get killed and might even find my own medic and get healed.
                  I find that most players dont realize that if you get in deep **** you can always jump and run. You dont have to stay, fight and die. Its just a thought but maybe you can actually achieve the orignal objective if you stay alive by running around the building or hideing untill the threat has passed. Ever try running backwards while fireing your weapon? Good Luck, next time. . . . . . . .Red

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                  • BigBadBob

                    #24
                    Re: Should heal packs self heal?

                    Originally posted by HowieMandel
                    yeah.....self medic/healing, self ammo'ing and self repairing, is lame, and shouldnt be in the game. If your a medic/supply/engy and need your special powers..........then you must get them from another one, like everyone else.

                    Simple.
                    jeez, then the game would be even slower than it is now.

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                    • Kurt

                      #25
                      Re: Should heal packs self heal?

                      Originally posted by Private_Snowb@ll
                      All these little tricks and techniques for each class just add flavour to the game. I swear it'd be so boring if everyone used the same 'honourable' tactics and didnt use their kit to its full advantage. Fair enough, its a bit unfair him being able to self heal midfight, but its not THAT effective, besides, every class has its advantages, use them!
                      Exactly. I've rarely noticed this done, it doesn't make the medic superhuman, it's just a perk of being a medic.

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                      • Jap1987

                        #26
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                        I don't know why people think medics are not cheap. Too many times would i see a medic either running or on a roof and I would exchange shots with him we would both hit each other but if im unlucky and i dont kill him guess what? I see him run out of site a few medic bag symbols come up and he comes back now with the advantage or he just leaves. That is cheap. Do i think medics should not be able to heal themselves? No. But medics should only be able to heal themselves why holding the bag in front of them. This gives them the ability to recover after or during a fire fight but at the cost of being unable to defend themselves.

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                        • sdm151
                          Member
                          • May 2005
                          • 132

                          #27
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                          Should heal packs self heal?
                          OMFG. I knew this one would be coming up soon in the pubnub-antifun-nerf list. I swear to all that is holy, you whiners have ruined this game and, as a matter of fact, have destroyed the entire BF franchise. Thanks a lot, you bunch of no-skilled retards who cry about every single way in which you get owned.

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                          • Thirdeyez

                            #28
                            Re: Should heal packs self heal?

                            So to sum it up..99% of you play Medic.
                            And I love how you guys over state how long it takes for a Med pack to self heal, yeah it takes 3 minutes..try 2-3 seconds...
                            Its funny how if you attack the love child so many panties get scrunched up..yet everyone cried over c4 chucking, PKM boost, etc..

                            No reason a Medic should play an assualt role, limiting self healing would pull him to the back of the offense, make him do his job..as it stans the class packs one of th emost powerfull guns and has self heals, that work alot quicker then you guys are making it out to be.
                            Yeah its not insta, but it does have its unfair advantage due to other perks the class gets.
                            But alas, so many medics...so best to keep any medic discussion hush hush or the lynching begins.

                            And yeah I was wrong about the G3 having no nades, I dont play assualt..was just trying to get hours for badge.
                            I play Spec Ops most, you know the same class nearly as medic..except for the fact I have a weaker gun and no self heals..oh yeah I have C4 that a have to gingerly walk over to tanks place 2 and use..or set booby traps...I guess to many medics couldnt self heal with C4 flying in there face, onto there tanks, onto high areas "NERF NERF", oh yeah you guys got that nerfed.

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                            • raceacontari

                              #29
                              Re: Should heal packs self heal?

                              Originally posted by Peoplekillingmachine
                              SO to sum it up..99% of you play Medic.
                              I play whatever is needed at the time. Usually in a round I have played at least 4 of the kits.

                              Regardelss I am more rounded, i still beleive they should self heal. Why? Because it's not something I feel is an exploit or anything, and should not be messed with.

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                              • 18Zulukiller
                                Member
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 1107

                                #30
                                Re: Should heal packs self heal?

                                Originally posted by Peoplekillingmachine
                                So to sum it up..99% of you play Medic.
                                And I love how you guys over state how long it takes for a Med pack to self heal, yeah it takes 3 minutes..try 2-3 seconds...
                                Its funny how if you attack the love child so many panties get scrunched up..yet everyone cried over c4 chucking, PKM boost, etc..

                                No reason a Medic should play an assualt role, limiting self healing would pull him to the back of the offense, make him do his job..as it stans the class packs one of th emost powerfull guns and has self heals, that work alot quicker then you guys are making it out to be.
                                Yeah its not insta, but it does have its unfair advantage due to other perks the class gets.
                                But alas, so many medics...so best to keep any medic discussion hush hush or the lynching begins.

                                And yeah I was wrong about the G3 having no nades, I dont play assualt..was just trying to get hours for badge.
                                I play Spec Ops most, you know the same class nearly as medic..except for the fact I have a weaker gun and no self heals..oh yeah I have C4 that a have to gingerly walk over to tanks place 2 and use..or set booby traps...I guess to many medics couldnt self heal with C4 flying in there face, onto there tanks, onto high areas "NERF NERF", oh yeah you guys got that nerfed.
                                What actually got c4 nerfed was all the butt monkeys running around with nothing but c4 and jumping and throwing it all the time and killing everyone including thereselfs and there own teammates half the time.

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