Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

[Frenchman]

Given that it's far easier to get a kill in a vehicle, and far harder to get killed, why do vehicle kills get the same point weight? I am tired of seeing all the spawn camping LAVs and tanks driven by talentless idiots who don't even know to get out of their vehicle when it's on fire.

Additionally, as it stands, it's fairly abnormal to see an infantry only player actually get on the scoreboard. A helo or a tanker is almost always number 1. Given that the commander usually takes a high spot on there too, an infantry only person has to get almost as many kills as an armor or helo player simply to get a medal.

Since I am obviously writing this from a personal experience, I've gotten 4th place atleast half the games I've played in the last two days. It usually goes in this order: Tanker in first, 2nd and 3rd are either a helo or lav player (depending on if there is a helo) or the commander, and then me. I've almost given up using the shotgun because I even if I get 25 kills in a round, it's not enough. I have to play a medic just to get the 25 kills plus a ton of teamwork points to beat the tanker.

Given that I have to bust my ass just to get in the ranks and armor players just have to hang back and try not to get too engaged but just spawn camp or shoot from a distance, or helo pilots just have to circle camp a spawn, why are the rewards unequal with regards to skill? And isn't that what the point system is supposed to reward?

[XmetallicaXguitarstX]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

stop playing karkand

[TheHairyYeti]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

yeah but then that takes away from kill damage assists and driver kill assists, cause they would have to be .5 points now and it would get confusing...

[Thomas Magnum]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

stop playing karkand

yeah, I'm tired of all these people thinking that the entire game experience should be altered according to what happens in Karkand.

[KingJungle]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

I think less worrying about the points and more laughing at those who get the badges for a specific trade (such as sniper or medic or whatever) while in those vehicles. It is very one sided, but hey, you can find a lot of servers where you dont get so many whores and have a wild ride.

[FerociouS]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

Given that it's far easier to get a kill in a vehicle, and far harder to get killed, why do vehicle kills get the same point weight? I am tired of seeing all the spawn camping LAVs and tanks driven by talentless idiots who don't even know to get out of their vehicle when it's on fire.

Additionally, as it stands, it's fairly abnormal to see an infantry only player actually get on the scoreboard. A helo or a tanker is almost always number 1. Given that the commander usually takes a high spot on there too, an infantry only person has to get almost as many kills as an armor or helo player simply to get a medal.

Since I am obviously writing this from a personal experience, I've gotten 4th place atleast half the games I've played in the last two days. It usually goes in this order: Tanker in first, 2nd and 3rd are either a helo or lav player (depending on if there is a helo) or the commander, and then me. I've almost given up using the shotgun because I even if I get 25 kills in a round, it's not enough. I have to play a medic just to get the 25 kills plus a ton of teamwork points to beat the tanker.

Given that I have to bust my ass just to get in the ranks and armor players just have to hang back and try not to get too engaged but just spawn camp or shoot from a distance, or helo pilots just have to circle camp a spawn, why are the rewards unequal with regards to skill? And isn't that what the point system is supposed to reward?

You obviously suck in vehicles, and i bet your also the kind of guy who keep spawning in the same place trying to take out the same vehicle and getting killed again and again in the process, what a pointless thread.

[XmetallicaXguitarstX]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

Like I said... I can just tell he is playing karkand... that is the ONLY map where tanks are a problem...

IMO Mashtuur is the best city map...

[Sloi sauce]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

... this guy seems to think helos are a noob vehicle (ie. are really easy to use properly to make kills consistently) so I won't bother taking the thread seriously.

[imported_Boots]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

[Negatory], George.

[AP_piano295]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

You obviously suck in vehicles, and i bet your also the kind of guy who keep spawning in the same place trying to take out the same vehicle and getting killed again and again in the process, what a pointless thread.

And you are obviously a vehicle whore, what this guy is talking about does not only apply to karkand or only to medics. It takes a very limmited amount of skill to get tons of kills in the MEC chopper on sharqui because the cannon pwns so much. It is easy to get lots of kills in a tank if you just hang back and spawn rape. I dont think the solution to the problem is making vehicle kills worth less though, I would prioritize targets killing a loaded tank should be worth more than shooting an infantry, same for choppers planes etc. This would 1 encourage spec ops and ati tank to go after vehicles more agressively, and 2 it would encourage vehicles to go after other vehicles more agressively so they wouldnt have time to spawn rape.

Getting kills in helos is easier hate to break it to you not easy but easier, because your weapons are stronger the average infantry unit does not provide a threat and you can cover a far larger area no time wasted walking from base to base. So why shouldnt you be a higher priority target?

[Unorignal]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

And you are obviously a vehicle whore, what this guy is talking about does not only apply to karkand or only to medics. It takes a very limmited amount of skill to get tons of kills in the MEC chopper on sharqui because the cannon pwns so much. It is easy to get lots of kills in a tank if you just hang back and spawn rape. I dont think the solution to the problem is making vehicle kills worth less though, I would prioritize targets killing a loaded tank should be worth more than shooting an infantry, same for choppers planes etc. This would 1 encourage spec ops and ati tank to go after vehicles more agressively, and 2 it would encourage vehicles to go after other vehicles more agressively so they wouldnt have time to spawn rape.

Getting kills in helos is easier hate to break it to you not easy but easier, because your weapons are stronger the average infantry unit does not provide a threat and you can cover a far larger area no time wasted walking from base to base. So why shouldnt you be a higher priority target?

any player can spawn camp, with an acp, tank, helo, or a gun. spawn camping does not require a vehicle. yes the mec chopper's gun chain guns owns but have you ever tryed to fly one of these compared to the US or the PLA? they are balanced. any gunner getting lots of points has a better then average pilot. some advice for you is adapt to your enemies tactics and you will live longer

[Sloi sauce]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

What this thread basically boils down to is "whaaaaaaa, my M16 isn't as powerful as the hellfire missiles on that Cobra so I want him nerfed!!!!"

[CaptainBuck]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

this is silly... tired of enemy choppers owning your team? take em out. on sharqi, they camp try using a rocket(ftw!? aiming the rocket with the mouse??)

wanna stop a tank whore? try taking a base(they are out there) some even have tow missiles

[AP_piano295]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

any player can spawn camp, with an acp, tank, helo, or a gun. spawn camping does not require a vehicle. yes the mec chopper's gun chain guns owns but have you ever tryed to fly one of these compared to the US or the PLA? they are balanced. any gunner getting lots of points has a better then average pilot. some advice for you is adapt to your enemies tactics and you will live longer

I adapt and live a very long time game name is flippydotcom if you want to look. What I am saying is that it is unfair to rate someone as a less skilled player because they do not vehicle whore. It is easy to get 100 points and 40 to 3 kdr in a map like karkand or sharqui with a tank or apc (I have done it on several ocassions if no one else is using vehicles) but it is very hard to do this on foot (not saying i havent done it on multiple ocassions) I dont really care much about the points i like being recognized as better than people its an ego thing sorry I'm human. And just because you can rape the people who can do absolutely nothing but hide from you does not make you a good player.

Spawn camping doesnt require a vehicle but it doesnt work super well unless you have one because that person who spawned behind you can kill you quite quickly when your not looking.

I'm not saying the choppers are unbalanced though the chinease chopper is worse than the other two with no real strengths its cannon sux and its not super manuverable like the cobra. What I am saying is that flying at high speed over sharqi in big circles it is very hard to be shot down and very easy to rape the infantry running around on the ground. This is not a particulary difficult skill to master where fighting well on the ground takes alot of accuracy speed and calculation.

So I think that killing people in vehicles should be worth more in order to inspire people to attack vehicles instead of just hiding. After all why attack the tank when it will probably just kill you when I can run over here and shoot some infantry, and get the same number of points without risking my life.

What this thread basically boils down to is "whaaaaaaa, my M16 isn't as powerful as the hellfire missiles on that Cobra so I want him nerfed!!!!"

***** PLEASE. F*CK YO COUCH.

Did I say I want you nerfed I said I should get more points for killing you then blasting another infantry in the face because it is harder to kill a chopper than another infy. I think a higher point incentive would inspire people to give vehicles a hard time including the other people driving/flying vehicles instead of just leaving the other tank or chopper alone for fear of being killed by it.

If your good at chopper you should still do fine if your not good at it then oh well i guess you dont get a free ride.

[AlphaCueUp]

Re: Vehicle kills should be only 1 point

i see ur point, and its a good one, i was ready to be opposed, but it seems to have some bit of merit....I agree its a little too easy for people to score points, but i am not sure what would be the best way to handle it, if any way at all.....im sure u know this wont be addressed by anyone, but your point is valid, ive seen alot, the gold depends on who gets the best vehicle first