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  • AgentSmith16

    #31
    Re: how to survive the J10

    I tried the flying high thing, it worked a couple times but most of the time I didn't get up there fast enough cause I still get caught too low lots. The times I did get up there he lost me, thanks for the tip. I also knew about the barrel roll, it seems quite helpful especially against AA sites. I'll use that in combination with the high flying mach 3 thing and it works 85% of the time, which is great against a J10. I still get caught flying too low alot of the time, thats when I get owned. My thing is, instead of doing a 75 degree dive and then bombing when I get to about 50, I'll drop when I get to 100 cause the bombs should hit just a little further forwards. Then get back to my standard altiitude, 400 ft.

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    • colony

      #32
      Re: how to survive the J10

      Originally posted by metallicaguitrst
      colony what servers do you fly on?
      O I play on 24/7 Wake Island Insomnia servers

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      • bloodbrood

        #33
        Re: how to survive the J10

        Originally posted by colony
        O I play on 24/7 Wake Island Insomnia servers
        hehe you might have seen me playing there. im usually on the chinese side (trying to get my medal) and Gibster401 in a J10 (J-10 whore but pretty good) is a very impresive kill indeed.

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        • Cole-Train

          #34
          Re: how to survive the J10

          Originally posted by colony
          If you do it right you will go supersonic, wont hear anything but silence, and will hit around Mach 3.5(3500-3600) and will outrun the J10 and the missile easily.

          The J10 cannot reach those speeds even with all its afterburner so it cant keep up. The missiles are fast, but still cant keep up. Speed is the F35 strength and at that altitude it is great.

          which is kind of odd, since, in real life, its an attacker aircraft. It usually flies out with F/A-22 Raptors in a four wing formation. the 2 raptors handle all air threats, while the 2 joint strike fighter carries out its bombing run.

          for a JSF-35 to go this fast, in real life, it would have to drop most, if not, all of its A-S weapons. one would think anyway

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          • Jugga, Bugga.

            #35
            Re: how to survive the J10

            Originally posted by bloodbrood
            hehe you might have seen me playing there. im usually on the chinese side (trying to get my medal) and Gibster401 in a J10 (J-10 whore but pretty good) is a very impresive kill indeed.
            mike_smith_cs is playing Kubra Dam on KNIFE & PISTOL ONLY

            lol

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            • pYura

              #36
              Re: how to survive the J10

              Originally posted by colony
              O it definitely works. I just came from 2 rounds "dominating" the other J10 pilots and shot em down using missiles.

              1 of them is an okay pilot(hes a J10 whore) and he couldnt understand it and said I had a modified plane :laugh: He got so ****ed off it was hilarious. His bf2 name is Gibster401






              ROFL!! "Worst Enemy
              (Deaths by, via EA) JointStrikeFighters (10)" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: good job!!

              Do you use a mose or a joystick?

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              • Roger Smith
                Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 1390

                #37
                Re: how to survive the J10

                Originally posted by You_were_killedby
                I think ea should make the j-10 worse or the f-35 AND the mig better so they are all equal.
                no plane should be equal, no rifle should be equal. but they should be balanced. so fix the flares and aa, stop screwing with handling characteristics, its not fixing the problems.

                Originally posted by pYura
                Usually you dont have time to pick the nose and reach 800ft... this idea is dead!
                exactly, because you were too busy bombing everything before you secured the air.

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                • pYura

                  #38
                  Re: how to survive the J10

                  I have just trid the fast flight in sp. Well I reached sonic speed. Ok , but when I go down the more consistent (?) air slows me down so what? I mean there is no trick in that, the JSF has stronger afterburners and this advantage shot realy itself when flying high, but nothing more... did I miss the point?

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                  • XgrimreaperX

                    #39
                    Re: how to survive the J10

                    Originally posted by =IMO=THJones
                    actually in REAL Life the fighters and bmbers don't fly as low as most in bf2 want to fly them. They want to be that l33t undefeatable plane that can go kill without any competition.

                    reality dictates fly HIGH like in real life swoop down for your bomb release.

                    do this you will survive and kill

                    the idea is only dead to those who can't dive bomb i see it used successfully everyday and in fact used to kill the j10's cause most pilots no matter which plane don't fly high and can be owned from superior elevation
                    really? that is funny because in the army i was AA (stinger missile) and we would setup right beside a patriot battery. flying high will just get you shot down in real life. hard to hit a nap-of-the-earth jet doing 700MPH . at that speed you dont hear it untill the bombs have already dropped on you and it is past you. that is why they train pilots to fly N.O.T.E for infiltration. sa-6's are not your friend. neither is a stinger and patriot.

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                    • =IMO=THJones

                      #40
                      Re: how to survive the J10

                      Originally posted by pYura
                      I have just trid the fast flight in sp. Well I reached sonic speed. Ok , but when I go down the more consistent (?) air slows me down so what? I mean there is no trick in that, the JSF has stronger afterburners and this advantage shot realy itself when flying high, but nothing more... did I miss the point?
                      at higher altitudes the j10 can not keep up, the trick is to stay high till someone gives you a ground target then dive on it bomb and go back up, this gives the j10 very little time to find and lock on you. at the higher altitude the j10 will not hit mach 3 with you , you will leave him in the dust, you can actually pull right behind him this way and kill him with your guns...once you get it down....

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                      • pYura

                        #41
                        Re: how to survive the J10

                        Originally posted by =IMO=THJones
                        at higher altitudes the j10 can not keep up, the trick is to stay high till someone gives you a ground target then dive on it bomb and go back up, this gives the j10 very little time to find and lock on you. at the higher altitude the j10 will not hit mach 3 with you , you will leave him in the dust, you can actually pull right behind him this way and kill him with your guns...once you get it down....
                        Oh I get it, thanks

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                        • ^nUbl4z0r(!)

                          #42
                          Re: how to survive the J10

                          thanks...was always flying the F22 on dragon valley wondering how in living h3ll the J-10 was staying on me and getting owned time after time...will try this

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                          • [WOLF]bbob

                            #43
                            Re: how to survive the J10

                            well d'uh, a height advantadge has always been a winning card ever since the dawn of aircombat..

                            WWI pilots would dive into those massive furballs of planes in order to get good shots and dive out to rinse repeat..

                            in WWII the fast but less agile BF109 went up real high and dived at spitfires, mustangs whatever, just blasting the guns and theyd be up there again shortly after..

                            and so on..

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                            • XmetallicaXguitarstX
                              Member
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 3014

                              #44
                              Re: how to survive the J10

                              Originally posted by colony
                              O I play on 24/7 Wake Island Insomnia servers
                              what time do you normally play there

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                              • Dooshy

                                #45
                                Re: how to survive the J10

                                After hearing many posts by metallica and with this topic to I have been able to outrun or evade enemy j-10's...But I still have the problem of taking them out. I know you have to chain gun them but unless they're a noob pilot I usually get like 10 shots on them and they turn off leaving me.

                                One question that if somebody could answer it would help a lot is "throttle control." Somebody mentioned but im not sure exactly what it is. My guess about what throttle control is, is when you accelerate and when you decelerate durning a turn in order to keep up with a J-10. Any help would be greatly appreciated, maybe a movie or screen shots?

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