Is CTF against ROE?

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  • BIFF EXPLODER
    Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 1136

    #31
    Re: Is CTF against ROE?

    i just wish they had CTF instead of COOP in the next patch...

    CTF was amazing in bf1942, was way cool to be in a jeep with a flag being chased by everything in the enemy team including planes and try to get away from it all WHAT A RUSH!!! WOOOHO!!!

    CTF ROCKS!!

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    • Ghilleman

      #32
      Re: Is CTF against ROE?

      WE already have CTF. Its called "TK for the aircraft"

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      • imported_Spuddy
        Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 1242

        #33
        Re: Is CTF against ROE?

        Originally posted by Harmor
        For those who don't know what CTF is, perhaps a graphic would explain it better:



        In the above USMC has to take Hotel FIRST, then Square, etc...

        That means the flag at Square will not move until there the flag at the Hotel is at 100% USMC.
        That's not CTF, I'm unsure of the name, perhaps 'push-maps'?, something like that.

        CTF is where you have one flag per team, and each team has to capture the opposing teams flag and return it to their own flag.

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        • CaptainPuffy

          #34
          Re: Is CTF against ROE?

          No thats not CTF. thats CTA. Capture the Aircraft.


          I also thought about a solution to a problem posed a few pages back. Someone said that people would TK the flag carrier so they could get the capture points. What I'd do would be to give anyone -15 points if they kill a friendly flag carrier, and only 10 points for a flag capture.

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          • Thirdeyez

            #35
            Re: Is CTF against ROE?

            We need some new type of game mode..friggin conquest is booooring.
            I love when it says at the loading screen what mode it is like "this is a conquest map..etc.."
            like no $hit arent they all...

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            • imported_SpungE

              #36
              Re: Is CTF against ROE?

              Originally posted by Harmor
              For those who don't know what CTF is, perhaps a graphic would explain it better:



              In the above USMC has to take Hotel FIRST, then Square, etc...

              That means the flag at Square will not move until there the flag at the Hotel is at 100% USMC.

              Sometimes in CTF you can make choices. An example would be when USMC owns Train Station. They can either take the Gatehouse or the Cement Factory. But USMC can't take the Warehouse until they own BOTH the Cement Factory and the Gatehouse.

              You can still have people go to other flags, to prevent people from setting up, but you can't do like you would normally in Conquest mode where you would attack back bases.
              Thats supply lines...

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              • Hu.Z_of_PLA

                #37
                Re: Is CTF against ROE?

                Originally posted by CaptainPuffy
                Um, if someone has Jets, tanks, heli's and Infantry to aid them in an assault, and they get taken out by C4, then FPS is not their strong point.

                There is always a way around all tactics, especially when there is the possibilities of 32players a side.
                No. I mean that you have to face tanks, aircrafts, etc, and flag will usually be claymored or C4. With elements of BF2, a CTF mode is simply unplayable. What about artillery? what about claymore whores? What about blocking flag with armor? there are too many perfect defense for CTF to work.

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                • CaptainPuffy

                  #38
                  Re: Is CTF against ROE?

                  All of it can be countered. If the enemy is using all of that on their defense, it means that their offense will be limited to infantry assaults, and vice versa.

                  Granted a few slight changes would need to be made to the mod to make it more match friendly, but most of the required changes is what people are already asking for.

                  1) Limit snipers to 1-2 claymores. Only allow 1-2 before they dissappear. Have them dissapear after the sniper dies.
                  2) Limit Engi's to 5 AT mines, only allow them to have 7 out, and have them disappear after the engi dies.
                  3) Either Remove Artillary , or allow squad hopping (Only in the CTF game mode)
                  4) Make Claymores and AT mines destructable by Bombs, C4, Grenades or Artillary only (No tank or APC shots, they should have to get out to at least chuck a grenade.)


                  The very first FPS game I played, CTF was what was popular. I played CTF for the better part of 6 years, so I guess the nostalgia makes me more willing to accept that changes are needed to allow this to happen, rather then just assuming that its not possibe and giving up.

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                  • Harmor

                    #39
                    Re: Is CTF against ROE?

                    Hmm...I think you're right, in retrospec. What I'm describing is "Supply-Line".

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                    • WarGimp

                      #40
                      Re: Is CTF against ROE?

                      Originally posted by Harmor
                      Hmm...I think you're right, in retrospec. What I'm describing is "Supply-Line".
                      Yeah... CTF is all about having to grab an object from the enemy base and getting it back to yours.

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                      • MadHaTT3R

                        #41
                        Re: Is CTF against ROE?

                        Funny how 20% responding are against anything and everything except keeping this game exactly how it is, except of course for EA's wise choices anyway.

                        I played CTF for 8 years or so and theres nothing like the rush of capping a flag. Getting in and getting it then getting all the way home to score, so much more intense than running into a base and hoping while you sit and wait and wait and wait and wait for it to change that some noob with a plane dont come and drop bombs on you cause some lame commander is sitting in a hole with a scan window open and your little red dot tellin him whee to send the aircraft.

                        No why change it?? Its so much fun.

                        Boycott the ranks!!!

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                        • BrickInTheHead

                          #42
                          Re: Is CTF against ROE?

                          wait a second theres a filter isnt there another game mode aside from conquest? it is next to the name i believe...

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                          • CaptainPuffy

                            #43
                            Re: Is CTF against ROE?

                            I believe Conquest assault is the one you're thinking of, its the same type of game play, the ticket bleed is just different though

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                            • jnick

                              #44
                              Re: Is CTF against ROE?

                              Originally posted by Hu.Z_of_PLA
                              I played bf42 since release and I was a DC tester since 0.3. However I can clearly see why DICE take out CTF and COOP: NO one played it.

                              CTF in BF is unbalanced enough. Try to break into an enemy base with tanks, aircrafts, helis, etc. And someone will put C4 on that flag. It's simply unplayable.
                              I just told you, I played it . . .

                              Seriously though, less than half the community played it, but so what? People DID play it, and that should be enough for it to be in the game.

                              As far as it being unplayable - you obviously didn't give it a chance. I used to play it with buddies of mine EVERY night for about 1.5-2 years. It deifnitely WAS playable.

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                              • Ghilleman

                                #45
                                Re: Is CTF against ROE?

                                In 1942 yes, but there were no claymore, c4 or rocket snipers. The sneakiest booby trap you could craft was an AT mine.

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