Is Karkand responsible for all the nerfs.

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  • Thirdeyez

    #1

    Is Karkand responsible for all the nerfs.

    Is it just me or do others seem to think that all the nerfs have come about do to incidents on Karkand.
    Everything from toobing, c4 chucking, insta proning, squad hopping..all these acts seemed to me as ways people played on Karkand for success but ways on other maps that were hardly noticed.
    It seems as since 90% of the community plays Karkand more then any other map that the complaints stem from actions done on these maps.
    Take for instance the PKM nerf...
    Now when the PKM was in its super accuracy mode it was highly useful on all maps..but on Karkand it dominated..so now after the nerf to the PKM it has been reduced to a sub-par gun on Karkand and a terrible gun on other maps.
    C4 chucking too..excellent tactic for vehicle heavy maps, but a rape tool on Karkand...so that gets the nerf stick.

    To me it seems like this..90% of the community are Karkand Medics, so the minute these players are affected a cry from them goes out for a nerf.
    So now were at the point were everyone plays Karkand medic..best weapon, best way to get team points, self heals...yet they havent felt the nerf stick once..odd. I find that they havent got the nerf stick cause so much of the community favors this class map combo there inst a push for it.

    I too am a Karkand junkie..but it really is making me disgusted anymore.
    I cant seem to ever find a server not playing Karkand..and if it is another map when I join, it will switch to Karkand the next round.
    And usually I liek to log onto a Karkand map to warm up..yet the minute that map end and a non-urban map comes next..the team numbers drop as people say to them selves "**** that Im goign to a karkand server"..which really sucks when your having a good 30 on 30 and the next thing you know once the map changes is it becomes a 10 on 10 cause 40 people decide they wont play anyting but Karkand. Like I said Im guilty too..I have 250ish hours on Karkand and only my second most played map is only 50ish hours..but starting today Im done.
  • evilzucchini

    #2
    Re: Is Karkand responsible for all the nerfs.

    I am sorry, but if you think that the PKM is a sub-par gun you are not very good.

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    • vbl

      #3
      Re: Is Karkand responsible for all the nerfs.

      Karkand is the testbed for infantry combat.

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      • sknight

        #4
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        i'm sure the jet nerfs/changes were caused by Karkand. :)

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        • Phrag

          #5
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          Originally posted by Peoplekillingmachine
          Is it just me or do others seem to think that all the nerfs have come about do to incidents on Karkand...
          ...said the man how plays Karkand almost 50% of the time. (277 hours out of 670)

          Yes, Karkand is popular with the point whores but C4 chucking and the uber-PKM were a problem on all maps.

          I think you are just unlucky and have a bias perspective because you play Karkand so much.

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          • ZemonerZ

            #6
            Re: Is Karkand responsible for all the nerfs.

            the blackhawk nerfs too

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            • N2K

              #7
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              Damn karkand no wonder my helis are flying tin cans!!!

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              • sknight

                #8
                Re: Is Karkand responsible for all the nerfs.

                Originally posted by Phrag
                ...said the man how plays Karkand almost 50% of the time. (277 hours out of 670)

                Yes, Karkand is popular with the point whores but C4 chucking and the uber-PKM were a problem on all maps.

                I think you are just unlucky and have a bias perspective because you play Karkand so much.
                he said he was a Karkand junky

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                • [GU]LIZARD{GEN}

                  #9
                  Re: Is Karkand responsible for all the nerfs.

                  Infantry lmao right. Dude everyone on that map is engineer and in armor. I ran got in an APC once and soon discovered why it was right back at the spawn, because 2 APC's and a Tank nearly invincible were driving around as engineer. My favorite tactic, but karkand is far from an infantry map. The guy with the most kills and points is the guy in the tank. Regardless, of what the rest are doing. You may only get killed once by that tank the whole map, or you may spawn in and that tank be there every time you spawn, either way on a 64 man map that tank is lame. I realize its apart of the game, dont care about it being there, but its not an all infantry map. Yes the majority of the server is on the ground but the guy in the tank is one who is dominating that map.
                  Once the team loses their back base at the Factory, and the enemy team gets 2 APC's and a tank, its over for the other team. Its a very boring map in my opinion. Only thing about is theres no planes, or helos to help keep those tanks down.

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                  • Phrag

                    #10
                    Re: Is Karkand responsible for all the nerfs.

                    Originally posted by scknight
                    he said he was a Karkand junky
                    277 hours puts you past junkie status. He is now the Pablo Escobar of Karkand.

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                    • sknight

                      #11
                      Re: Is Karkand responsible for all the nerfs.

                      Originally posted by Phrag
                      277 hours puts you past junkie status. He is now the Pablo Escobar of Karkand.

                      lol, ok you win.

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                      • TrenchDigger

                        #12
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                        yeah look at the number one guy in BF2. 2200 hours on Karkand and 2200 hours in armor. Also always seems to be commanding on top of that.. I love how people brag about all their positive ratios and crap. Well now you know why.

                        Really tuff to sit at spawn points in armor with a UAV and supply crates going all the time. Takes loads of skill to click your mouse when somewhere appears 2 feet from your barrel.

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                        • Phrag

                          #13
                          Re: Is Karkand responsible for all the nerfs.

                          Originally posted by [GU]LIZARD
                          Infantry lmao right. Dude everyone on that map is engineer and in armor. I ran got in an APC once and soon discovered why it was right back at the spawn, because 2 APC's and a Tank nearly invincible were driving around as engineer. My favorite tactic, but karkand is far from an infantry map. The guy with the most kills and points is the guy in the tank. Regardless, of what the rest are doing. You may only get killed once by that tank the whole map, or you may spawn in and that tank be there every time you spawn, either way on a 64 man map that tank is lame. I realize its apart of the game, dont care about it being there, but its not an all infantry map. Yes the majority of the server is on the ground but the guy in the tank is one who is dominating that map.
                          Once the team loses their back base at the Factory, and the enemy team gets 2 APC's and a tank, its over for the other team. Its a very boring map in my opinion. Only thing about is theres no planes, or helos to help keep those tanks down.
                          Wrong. Engineer armor convoys are easy to break up. Just spawn spec-ops, make a car bomb and hit the first tank/armor you see. Instant armor kill and you still have 2 more C4 packs to take out the other armor if you are really good (or they are really bad).

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                          • GlobalFear

                            #14
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                            I think Karkand itself has more problems than the weapons ever did and it has yet to see any tweaks. Putting the player spawners in sensible locations (Not in direct view of tanks) helps a **** load.

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                            • seeker[uk]

                              #15
                              Re: Is Karkand responsible for all the nerfs.

                              its the best map to learn infantry is it not?

                              and like matey said its a test bed.if it dont work on kark or it works to well changes are made.
                              I love kark.....its most deffinatly the new de dust.... a perfect arena for learning the ins and outs of groundpounding........or prounding.

                              i should imagine ea try to judge whats best for their product by creating a patch that resolves the issues most players wish to be addressed.Like you say...those issues maybe best seen in kark for infantry based.....i dont see much wrong.

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