Where have all the real aviators gone?

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  • vets.Sarge

    #1

    Where have all the real aviators gone?

    In the past few weeks dogfighting really has seem to have dissapeard from bf2 altogether. No one checks their rear, pilots immediatley break off and go back to base if they run out of missles. Pilots no longer seem to be capable of getting away from enemy jets when someone actually comes after them with guns. Everyone's complaining about the f-35b/j10 comparison. Were they unbalanced pre-1.2? Yes, they were, but I didn't see thread after thread about it back then. Of course, it is rediculous that the f-35b has such a small chance of evading missles, but why do you people want to fix this by making other jets THE SAME?! Missles can be used to down a j-10, it's all about the timing.

    Ask yourself: When was the last time you had a real dogfight?

    Now please don't post some comment on how us pilots just want kills or points. Make no mistake - with or without the new AA, a decent pilot in post-1.2 BF2 will have no problem 'ground pounding'. It's the excitement and skill needed in dogfights that attracted me to jets in the first place, and with the new <20 second missle fights it has completely gone away.

    Aren't there any other aviators here who want the old way of dogfighting back?

    Forgive the whineyness of this post, but I feel very strongly about this subject as jets attracted me to BF2 in the first place and won't let it rest this easily
  • bisley

    #2
    Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

    Back to BF42 / DC

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    • Rockinrob99

      #3
      Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

      When was the last time I had a Real dogfight?

      Pre-1.2

      The missiles seemed to miss all the time. There was no crazy crap, and there was a sense of acheivment when you shot someone down.

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      • imported_Remmydox

        #4
        Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

        I can still evade jets, you have to do really tight turns to get away from your rockets on yoru ass. Also fly around your enemys planes/choppers. Then drop your flares. As soon as you get targetted dont drop your flares.

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        • vets.Sarge

          #5
          Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

          Originally posted by Remmydox
          I can still evade jets, you have to do really tight turns to get away from your rockets on yoru ass. Also fly around your enemys planes/choppers. Then drop your flares. As soon as you get targetted dont drop your flares.
          You drop your flares while doing a barrel roll, so they get launched upwards and cover your ass for a much longer time. Obviously, don't drop flares and fly in a straight line. I see so many people doing this and it just doesn't help.

          There are lots of maneauvres you can do to get away from an enemies lock quickly, But it's still constrained to mostly quick and boring 'fights'

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          • N2K

            #6
            Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

            Only thing i have a hard time getting away from is a J10

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            • imported_Remmydox

              #7
              Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

              j10 sucks balls. Its stupid now. Its only good if your the one flying XD

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              • WDA_Endless954

                #8
                Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

                Well, here's a couple real pilots:









                Some may not have the "killer" k/d of a jet whore, but damned if I see them shot down much, and I play with them every day.

                BTW, Vets.Sarge, they agree with you.

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                • imported_Remmydox

                  #9
                  Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

                  Is this pre-patch? If so im not looking at the stats.

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                  • -[gnw]- bumblino

                    #10
                    Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

                    Originally posted by bisley
                    Back to BF42 / DC
                    Yup.

                    BF2 doesnt come close to 1942 for flight dynamics.

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                    • WDA_Endless954

                      #11
                      Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

                      Originally posted by Remmydox
                      Is this pre-patch? If so im not looking at the stats.
                      LMAO, anyone above private first class is gonna have some pre-patch time in!! Who are you kidding???

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                      • colony

                        #12
                        Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

                        Originally posted by Endless954
                        Well, here's a couple real pilots:









                        Some may not have the "killer" k/d of a jet whore, but damned if I see them shot down much, and I play with them every day.

                        BTW, Vets.Sarge, they agree with you.
                        lol those are horrible aviator stats, you must have just picked names out of a hat :laugh:

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                        • Oxy

                          #13
                          Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

                          Last time I had a good dogfight?

                          Earlier today with bR~Hotdog, if you just ask the other teams pilots if they want to have a no missle dogfight most of them will kindly oblige.

                          And just because everyone spams missles at you the second they get behind you doesn't mean you have to do the same to them, make it challenging for yourself and just use the guns.

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                          • mofo.au

                            #14
                            Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

                            Dog fighting went out when missiles were invented! now, it is the airforce with the best hardware not skill, who will prevail! I`m not saying skill doesnt count, because it does! but if you cant see the other guy.....

                            Padlock in the jets would be handy!

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                            • The Soup Nazi

                              #15
                              Re: Where have all the real aviators gone?

                              Just did this yesterday night around 11:30 PM. Nothing but Mig-29 love.



                              The 1 death I had was near the end of the round when I slammed into a USMC Cobra.

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