Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

[Vundu]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

Agree totally, if EF was not meant to be armour intensive imagine AF is gonna be like.

[-CsA-Bearcage]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

Hear here!!!!!

[GLENNYBOY1]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

Ooeer,I've just had a scarey thought!

EF gets screwed up and turns into Armoured Fury right?

Look at the new vehicles for AF....planes!....'Aviation Fury' is just round the corner...mark my words chaps,theres gonna be complaints about how these maps were supposed to be about larking about in tanks and get ready for tales of woe about getting pwned by overpowerful A-10s.

Judging from how wrong EF got it,AF will have 2 tanks for each side and 12 planes circling like vultures

[DrunkenPirate]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

Yea, I agree with this ^^

[GLENNYBOY1]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

Cheers Drunken,

Whatever AF turns out to be (shudder!!) it would be a nice gesture if we got a one off (free) Karkand style map with a forthcoming patch,just to keep the groundpounders happy.

Come on EA/Dice,you know it makes sense.

[HITDOG]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

i agree on one map . tq. fora person with over 1200hrs of play time. i think great wall is the best map ever. real infintry skills required. eng are a real threat. and having good squads holding certain flags makes it a good game. but if ur in noob hell. and they have the inside flags. all u need is a tank and eng's at the opening and 10 snipers and an apc at the wall that crumbles lol. operation smoke screen is fun. u have a vechile at all times. which is fun. to say it stinks. is all wrong u guys expect things for ur selves ur selfish people. who complain about everything. they keep patching cause u keep complaining. before some of the patches it was a requirment to have good pilots now any noob can shoot em down. think clan matches ur air could win u matches . now stop complaing. fort 9.99 they did a good job.

[BravoTwoZeroUK]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

I can remember just before SF came out and some people were saying I'm not going to buy it then had half the community calling them whiners and it's there bad luck they're not in with SF.
So SF comes out and everyone just used it for the weapons and complain they paid for it.
Now EF comes out and the same gullible people buy it, then complain about it
Fair enough the expansion/booster packs haven't cost all that much but still you've paid for what you can get for free with a Mod with alot more content for FREE.
Fair enough for kids who get excited at the thought of something new but adults that brought them then complain.
What did you expect !

[ACE4U]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

EF is much slower because you spawn a mile from anything to shoot at, you have to drive pokey armor to get there, and you'll probably die from a bomber or tank before you make it to a hotspot. Plus, on most EF maps (big exception is Great Wall) there are no choke points. Taraba Quarry is so wide open, only the quarry itself is somewhat protected but can still be openly attacked from either side.

I think they should have had alot of city maps. After all, when I think Euro Forces, I think of kicking ass in London, Paris, Berlin, you name it. Not out in the middle of the desert like always. I mean, for god's sakes please give us one jungle map like BFV.

I was thinking in the streets of Germany and in towns, where the streets are too small for tanks to pass through, you must use infrantry tactics.

[mursht]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

Allow me to tell you. Some folks will disagree, but these facts remain.

1. 2 of the 3 maps are armor focused. Euro Forces was not supposed to be about armor - Armored Fury is supposed to be about armor. 99% of your playerbase was expecting a more balanced set of maps and gameplay. You completely missed the mark with their expectations. (Note: Some folks are happy/don't care about the disconnect, but most of us have bought the booster and played it less than 10 times because we're completely disappointed)
   
2. You spent time making a new helicopter, but only included it in 1 of the 3 maps. Why bother? You wasted time and dev resources (and we paid money) for something that we can only use 33% of the time.
   
3. You spent time making 2 new tanks, despite the fact that they sound exactly alike (they share the M1's sounds) and don't really have any noteworthy differences aside from the physical look. Tank combat was already single-dimensional with only negligible differences between the regular BF2 tanks. Why add more of the same without adding depth?
   
4. Great Wall, the only map worth playing for real joint arms combat, is possibly the shallowest map in the game. Every firefight on the wall is the same. You have a shootout in one part of the wall, you've had a shootout on all parts. Theres no variety like the varying alleys of Mashtuur. Oh, and armor still rules the ground.
   
5. Taraba Quarry was made in (I hope) 15 minutes. Flat, boring, completely linear. You managed to make a map that is as uninteresting as Zatar Wetlands but reduced the flow of the battle to a single dimension. You couldn't even add RIBs to the coastline?
   
6. Great new guns! But we can't use them anywhere except on the new maps which, as mentioned, completely devalue small arms combat. We understand that there are memory implications with adding new unlocks, but you know what? We'd like you to figure it out. Everybody wants the EU guns to be available. You obviously didn't think your growth strategy through when you decided to start adding content. Now you're just p1ssing people off.
   
7. Finally, in typical form, you've managed to completely marginalize almost half of the kits, depending on the map. There's really no relevant reason to play Medic, Support, or Assault on TQ or OSS. Great Wall is all about sniping and landmines, with some medic work thrown in. I love being forced to play a kit because the map requires it in order for me to be able to contribute. Every kit should be able to make a meaningful contribution on any map. This isn't news though, as anyone trying to play Support on Operation Clean Sweep can tell you.

Please print this out and circulate around the office. Hopefully it's not too late to fix AF before you completely step in it. Again. The playerbase has a strong pulse - why can't you seem to tap into it?

(I boldfaced the beginning of each line to increase readibility. I couldn't put line breaks in between the numbers so I needed a way to break up text)

I couldnt agree with you anymore than i do right now

[BravoTwoZeroUK]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

Start realising they want your money and know the majority of the community are young and gullible and they couldn't really care about bringing out decent content.
Thats what I think anyways

[ACE4U]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

From all the replies, the majority is dissappointed with EF and agree with the orginal post. I said from the begining that EA should have just made another expansion pack to include EFand AF together along with new armies, weapons, maps, vehicels, planes and helos. But, you all, you only paid $10 in American and less for the UK money, so I hope you was not expecting much. That is why I did not purchase it, because I want content.

But some people must enjoy playing EF, because there are servers playing them and they are populated, but how much longer .

I guess EA should have have at least one city map like Karkand(which is so darn popular) and maybe the response would have been better. All they have to do is see how many 24/7 servers are out there and which map they run and make a similar one to that one and people may be content.

[BravoTwoZeroUK]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

From all the replies, the majority is dissappointed with EF and agree with the orginal post. I said from the begining that EA should have just made another expansion pack to include EFand AF together along with new armies, weapons, maps, vehicels, planes and helos. But, you all, you only paid $10 in American and less for the UK money, so I hope you was not expecting much. That is why I did not purchase it, because I want content.

But some people must enjoy playing EF, because there are servers playing them and they are populated, but how much longer .

I guess EA should have have at least one city map like Karkand(which is so darn popular) and maybe the response would have been better. All they have to do is see how many 24/7 servers are out there and which map they run and make a similar one to that one and people may be content.

But that's what I can't understand, paying a small amount of money for small changes in skins and 3maps? or paying nothing for a Mod and getting a whole lot more.

[Vundu]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

Totally agree on all points.

[Wild_Wokman]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

Great Recap!! They are all about the money.

[GLENNYBOY1]

Re: Hey DICE, Euro Forces blows. Want to know why?

Start realising they want your money and know the majority of the community are young and gullible and they couldn't really care about bringing out decent content.
Thats what I think anyways

Fair enough bravo,I for one like t.quarry and op.smokescreen,somebody already said they're like bf42 maps and thats why I like em,but the new weapons are pretty well useless(especially medic)as everyone is poncing around in tanks and that is what armoured fury is supposed to be about.

Infantry seems to be pretty much redundant in EF.

My beef with it is it was supposed to be more infantry orientated.

Good to see Sir Norman of Wisdom in ya sig btw...'MR GRIMSDALE'