Upgrades for pc.

[lil_jimmy_norton]

Re: Upgrades for pc.

if i wanted a dule core ida gotten 1 ..... i dont make silly mods, single core fx-55 plays WAY better than yours im sure

How about using all that money for an english class?

For the record mine runs circles around yours, and I payed a hell of a lot less...

[Sir. MatDef]

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if i wanted a dule core ida gotten 1 ..... i dont make silly mods, single core fx-55 plays WAY better than I need it to

Hahahhaahaahhahaah! :laugh:

Thanks, I needed the laugh. So what you are saying is your fx-55 at 2.6ghz is faster than my dual core 4800+ at 2.7?

[imported_JerseyBricklayer]

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look man, dont talk to me... i didnt start **** and dont argue on internet forums.... im a grow adult. Get a life and leave me alone

[kaheiyeh]

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Jeez, get back on topic guys ...

[imported_JerseyBricklayer]

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a ****ty Opteron 148 @ 2.9Ghz , better than a fx-55? i dont think so
i beleave its based on the same architexture

[Sir. MatDef]

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a ****ty Opteron 148 @ 2.9Ghz , better than a fx-55? i dont think so

You really should stop, since you are obviously talking out of your ass and shop for technology by buying the most expensive thing you can find, regardless of how bad it is. Lemme guess, you also only buy things that use the fatal1ty name too, right?

His opty would stomp your fx into the ground.

[QuikSilv3r47]

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a ****ty Opteron 148 @ 2.9Ghz , better than a fx-55? i dont think so
i beleave its based on the same architexture

Believe*. Architecture*.

If you're a grown adult, you should be able to spell, and I'm 15 and I can better.

Annnnyyyyways, back on topic.

Which would overclock better? 3200+ or 3500+? Because they're not much of a price difference. I've heard the 3200+ overclocks better, but I'm not sure.

[Sir. MatDef]

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Believe*. Architecture*.

If you're a grown adult, you should be able to spell, and I'm 15 and I can better.

Annnnyyyyways, back on topic.

Which would overclock better? 3200+ or 3500+? Because they're not much of a price difference. I've heard the 3200+ overclocks better, but I'm not sure.

Pretty much a crapshoot, might do better with one of these:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103598

[QuikSilv3r47]

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Pretty much a crapshoot, might do better with one of these:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103598

It's only like 50 bucks more than a 3200 too.

[Blak_Phoenix]

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Ok.. a lin kfor all the AMD's in AUS.. and cheap.. the Opty 146 is only $260 AUD i havn't seen cheaper. hell im even tempted to buy it.. lol.

[lil_jimmy_norton]

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a ****ty Opteron 148 @ 2.9Ghz , better than a fx-55? i dont think so
i beleave its based on the same architexture

Please, don't make yourself look any stupider than you have already. Yes indeed they are based on the same "architexture" as you say (I assume you meant architecture). That being the same what it comes down to is clock speed versus price. You can understand that right? Is that too difficult for you?

Your FX-55 = 2.6 GHz = $811.00
My Opty 148 = 2.9 GHz = $250.00

Hmm, higher clock speed for less money…. That is ****ty isn’t it?

Difference of $561, which you could have used on an English class. They do speak English in Jersey right?

Oops, looks like in your infinite wisdom you grossly overpaid. I guess "all those brains" you said you have (since you are a brick layer and we all know how much intelligence that takes) must have taken a break on you.

[imported_Wreck]

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You all probably have this guy chucking bricks through his trailer windows out of anger.

[Bio_Terra]

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in terms of architecture how are the AMD 64bit and the opterons different? also what makes the FX-55 so damn expensive?

[Sir. MatDef]

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in terms of architecture how are the AMD 64bit and the opterons different? also what makes the FX-55 so damn expensive?

There is no difference, and the fx is expensive because it has a unlocked multi and people will pay for the fx name.

[LoD]

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in terms of architecture how are the AMD 64bit and the opterons different? also what makes the FX-55 so damn expensive?

Architecturally almost nothing. Socket 940 opterons have an error correcting ram memory controller, meaning they require ECC ram to operate. They also have more hypertransport links, so that they can work in multi socket 2 or 4 way motherboards.

On top of that almost no difference, Opterons are however more the creme of the crop of the chips, and usually operate at lower voltages (less heat) than an Athlon64.

Socket 939 Opterons are 100% identicle to Athlon64, except they operate at a slightly lower voltage, and are "possibly" binned better, meaning they are again, the creme of the crop that comes out of the fab. Additionally all Opterons have 1MB cache, but so do many Athlon64s.


FX chips are essentially the same as any other Opteron or A64, except that upon release they are always operate at the fastest clock speed AMD is willing to sell. Another difference is that they are unlocked, meaning that overclockers have a little bit more headroom to manipulate the clockspeed. A standard Intel chip is locked at one multiplier and cannot be manipulated, and all AMD64 chips are locked upwards, but not downwards (FX is the exception). This means that a 3200+ Venice with a multiplier of 10, can be set lower...9 8 7 6 etc..., but not higher. This is to counter piracy (mostly in Asia) where lower clocked chips would be overclocked without the buyer knowing.

Essentially all overclocking outside of FX chips requires stressing different components such as ram, mobo etc... it becomes less stable and harder to fake if the FSB is @ 220mhz instead of 200mhz and so on and so forth. Piracy/rebadging still happens, but locked multipliers pretty much keep it from being a mainstream problem.

AMD gets away with selling the FX because they figure no pirate operation will be able to get much of a profit rebadging $1000 chips. FX cater towards enthusiasts basically... really rich enthusiasts, or really rich suckers IMO. With motherboards able to handle 300mhz + on the motherboard FSB, and ram running at a divider offering insignificant performance hits, it is hard to justify the price tag just for an unlocked multiplier, makes more sense to buy a mid to low end single or dual core and OC the crap out of it the standard way.

Opterons are more attractive to overclockers because of low voltage and the perceived (probably accurate to some degree) "creme of the crop" status. They are tremendous overclockers and also offer 1MB cache.