AMD 3400+ @ 2.2 will bottleneck 7800Gtx?

[whofriggincares]

Re: AMD 3400+ @ 2.2 will bottleneck 7800Gtx?

Flanker, you really need to go read up a little bit more. Some motherboards absolutely suck because there aren't enough options. Sata ports aren't locked, etc. BIOS options are considered part of the mobo, so if you can't raise your vcore over 1.4V, you won't oc that much and that board sucks for overclocking. There's so much involved in a good oc I can't put it all here. The point is, you need a good motherboard to have stable high overclock, along with RAM and a PSU. Everyone knows that an oc depends primarily on the cpu, that's a gimme. Doesn't matter what board you have, if you're chip can't oc, then it can't oc. I've owned 3 boards in the past 4 months and I can tell you there is a difference in all 3.

[Eddy01741]

Re: AMD 3400+ @ 2.2 will bottleneck 7800Gtx?

CPUs won't bottleneck your vid card? Everywhere I have read has said that the new 7800s are being bottlenecked by the low end CPUs. Throw in 2 7800s, it's worse. I'd like to see official links proving the CPU doesn't bottleneck the latest cards.

Here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...-games2_3.html
Ya, a difference of like 1fps between a 3200+ and a FX-57, that's not much.

[Flanker]

Re: AMD 3400+ @ 2.2 will bottleneck 7800Gtx?

Flanker, you really need to go read up a little bit more. Some motherboards absolutely suck because there aren't enough options. Sata ports aren't locked, etc. BIOS options are considered part of the mobo, so if you can't raise your vcore over 1.4V, you won't oc that much and that board sucks for overclocking. There's so much involved in a good oc I can't put it all here. The point is, you need a good motherboard to have stable high overclock, along with RAM and a PSU. Everyone knows that an oc depends primarily on the cpu, that's a gimme. Doesn't matter what board you have, if you're chip can't oc, then it can't oc. I've owned 3 boards in the past 4 months and I can tell you there is a difference in all 3.

You need a motherboard to have a few things to overclock;

HTT modifier
CPU Voltage Modifier
RAM Voltage Modifier
LDT Multiplier Modifier
Memory Divider is nice too, but not required.

If it has those things, it will overclock. If your CPU voltage won't go over 1.5v, big deal. You can still overclock. Every motherboard allows you to change your CPU voltage even a little bit.

As for BIOS options, where you are getting your motherboard from? There is no excuse for buying a motherboard that you've never heard of before, and if you can find a better motherboard for the same price or less.

But all that aside, my argument is based off of when people say, "That motherboard will let you overclock to 2.4Ghz, 2.6Ghz might be a little too hard though." You tell me how that has anything to do with a motherboard? My motherboard can set the CPU voltage to 2.5v, I'd assume other motherboards to have it to atleast 1.75v...

[whofriggincares]

Re: AMD 3400+ @ 2.2 will bottleneck 7800Gtx?

I think I see what you're saying, and hopefully you see what I'm saying. We're pretty much arguing the same point. A motherboard in of itself, won't make you're CPU overclock to a certain point. A good motherboard has all the right options to help you get the best overclock you can get. If you take a cpu that has a lot of potential and put it in a board with not enough options, then you probably won't be able to overclock as high as a board with a lot more options. I know for a fact I can get a higher OC with my DFI lanparty than I could my MSI K8N Plat or K8T800 FIR.

The point is, if you want to find out how your cpu overclocks, then go find out yourself. Every single cpu is different.

[Flanker]

Re: AMD 3400+ @ 2.2 will bottleneck 7800Gtx?

Agreed. Can we put it this way; the MAX overclock of a CPU by itself doesn't depend on the motherboard?

[imported_Wreck]

Re: AMD 3400+ @ 2.2 will bottleneck 7800Gtx?

Agreed. Can we put it this way; the MAX overclock of a CPU by itself doesn't depend on the motherboard?

I'll also have to disagree seeing that alot of motherboards have a max HTT that they can reach stabily. The quality of the caps on the board has alot to do with how high you can get your HTT. The MSI Neo 2 Platinum I had couldn't go over 260ish HTT without restarting and giving 3D corruption. My Abit AV8 wouldn't go over 270ish HTT without memtest instability. My DFI I have now can reach 330 HTT (highest I've tested) with no issues at all.

[Flanker]

Re: AMD 3400+ @ 2.2 will bottleneck 7800Gtx?

Memtest instability because of motherboard...thats rich.

[whofriggincares]

Re: AMD 3400+ @ 2.2 will bottleneck 7800Gtx?

If it's a bad board to start off with, then you will have problems. Mem errors come from having memory problems.