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  • imported_goya

    #91
    Re: OK ... Why AMD Not P4?

    Originally posted by shadow_vision
    and to get 500 watt with 70% efficiency or 400 watt with 80% efficiency?
    do the math! the 500 is better.

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    • imported_shadow_vision

      #92
      Re: OK ... Why AMD Not P4?

      Originally posted by j-train
      And why on earth would you advise someone to get a Non-SATA HDD?

      $54 for a WD 80GB SATA-150 Drive. If you want to be the last one on the map, use a straight IDE-133 drive.
      IM THE ONE MAKING THE SYSTEM DIQFACE! :p

      OKAY ... HERES 3 MORE QUESTIONS THAT I MUST HAVE ANSWERED IN LESS THAN A WEEK

      1. Is there ANY downside to buying 1 Gb RAM(1x1024) with a 2 Gb Max Motherboard as opposed to 4 Gb Max Mobo with 2x512 Ram?
      2. Should I invest more into my processor (currently 3200+) or more into my video card (currently x800gto)
      3. Would I regret buying a cheap@$$ monitor like this ... http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/ESA-M...oductDetail.do ?

      this will be my final post so also, tell me any last gripes about my system ... it rly does help

      AMD 3200+ 2.0 Ghz /

      GeIL 1Gb(512x2) SDRAM
      80 Gb Hardrive SATA
      x800gto 256Mb Vid Card
      Asus 4 Mb/ PCIE
      Antec PSU 500 watt

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      • Flares

        #93
        Re: OK ... Why AMD Not P4?

        Originally posted by shadow_vision
        1. Is there ANY downside to buying 1 Gb RAM(1x1024) with a 2 Gb Max Motherboard as opposed to 4 Gb Max Mobo with 2x512 Ram?
        2. Should I invest more into my processor (currently 3200+) or more into my video card (currently x800gto)
        3. Would I regret buying a cheap@$$ monitor like this ... http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/ESA-M...oductDetail.do
        1. Personally I'd buy a 4GB max mobo with 2x1024GB running dual channel. This leaves room for future ram upgrades. Corsair Value Select is decent budget ram. It doesn't overclock very well but it is otherwise stable and will run at 2.5-3-3-7 timings.

        2. The socket 939 venice core 3200+ overclocks easily without getting hot. You should be able to reach 2.4ghz or more before you'll need to consider a third party cooling solution. If you're on a budget it's a good chip.
        Some of the X800GTO cards (with R480 cores) can have the pipelines unlocked, plus the with the usual core and ram overclock, turns this into an 850XT. Apparently the Sapphire X800GTO is the most reliable unlock and overclocker. Some Googling should get you definite answers before you purchase.
        Otherwise, another consideration is the latest mid range budget card from Nvidia, the 6800GS. This overclocks and matches the 6800GT in performance.

        3. If that's all you can afford, then you've little choice. It should be fine.

        Shadow, that system if fine, but I'd rather have 2GB of slightly cheaper ram, than 1GB of performance. If you're on a tight budget, more is better.

        Jtrain.. you're right, it does make sense to buy a single SATA drive, as they're generally cheaper and on paper faster than IDE, plus you have the option of a RAID system... However, regarding loading times, and BF2, with my Maxtor 80GB IDE133 and 2GB Corsair VS ram, I'm usually one of the first people to spawn on 64 player maps...

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        • DrunkenPirate
          Ascended
          • Mar 2005
          • 4210

          #94
          Re: OK ... Why AMD Not P4?

          wow can we tone down the flames a bit?

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          • Hephaistion

            #95
            Re: OK ... Why AMD Not P4?

            Originally posted by DrunkenPirate
            wow can we tone down the flames a bit?
            Look who is talking. This is the admin/mod that continously flamed me on a post non-stop until I asked to to be closed.
            Why don't you clean your own doorstep before you go and tell others what to do.
            I realized I will probably be banned for this comment, but it is true. DrunkenPirate is a poor admin. He is all "do as I say, not as I do"
            Any admin who would flame on a thread and then go to another thread and say "Keep the flames down' needs to have his head examined.

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            • imported_shadow_vision

              #96
              Re: OK ... Why AMD Not P4?

              lol .... then j-train getz biatch slapped in the background

              but uh ... whos flaming? Am I being flamed?! Death to the sniveling mutineer who tries and flame the GREAT SHADOW MASTER!! no j/k but i really didnt think anyone was flaming anyone here ... unless i missed it

              AND ANSWER MY DAMN QUESTIONS U FLAMERS :P

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              • imported_shadow_vision

                #97
                Re: OK ... Why AMD Not P4?

                Originally posted by Flares
                1. Personally I'd buy a 4GB max mobo with 2x1024GB running dual channel. This leaves room for future ram upgrades. Corsair Value Select is decent budget ram. It doesn't overclock very well but it is otherwise stable and will run at 2.5-3-3-7 timings.

                2. The socket 939 venice core 3200+ overclocks easily without getting hot. You should be able to reach 2.4ghz or more before you'll need to consider a third party cooling solution. If you're on a budget it's a good chip.
                Some of the X800GTO cards (with R480 cores) can have the pipelines unlocked, plus the with the usual core and ram overclock, turns this into an 850XT. Apparently the Sapphire X800GTO is the most reliable unlock and overclocker. Some Googling should get you definite answers before you purchase.
                Otherwise, another consideration is the latest mid range budget card from Nvidia, the 6800GS. This overclocks and matches the 6800GT in performance.

                Shadow, that system if fine, but I'd rather have 2GB of slightly cheaper ram, than 1GB of performance. If you're on a tight budget, more is better.
                So instead of upgrading the video card or processor you would up the Ram sounds good ... but i need this in plain, almost retard terms ...

                should i get the x800gto 16 pipes or the 6800gs ... whats better in performance cuz i cant find the gto benchmarks anywhere but if i were to get the 6800gs i found a nice one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150118 tell me what u think

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                • matthew200383

                  #98
                  Re: OK ... Why AMD Not P4?

                  um..... Semprons are not THAT bad for gaming, but AMD Athlon 64 are much better budget processors, I in fact just built this pc last week and chose my processor wisely, look at the specs of it... I bought it off www.eclipsecomputer.com - a very reasonable website for computer buying/DIY ing. heres a link to the processor I got http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/prod...de=CPA-A32VC93
                  £96 it was when I bought it, but look at the FSB !!! 2000M MHz, I think Intel's only go up to 533MHz, but I know for a FACT that when it comes to games, AMD outrule Intel. As soon as I get BF2 working, I will be able to run it on medium to max settings I would have thought with my GeForce 6 Series. Oh yea, nVIDIA in my opinion are much better. The 6800 LE series (256MB VERSION) is a decent AGP Card. And for gaming, a gig or more is rapid. 512MB hmmm....... Its well worth going that little bit further and doubling it to a gig. Trust me, you will notice a massive improvment
                  __________________________________________________ ________
                  AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Socket 939 (Venice)
                  EPOX nFORCE 3 Motherboard
                  512MB of RAM (I ordered another 512 which I am waiting for)
                  nVIDIA GeForce 6600 256MB (inno3d) AGP Graphics
                  160GB SATA Hard drive (Maxtor)
                  500Watt PSu (Sumvision)
                  Windows XP pro X64 Edition

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                  • Flanker

                    #99
                    Re: OK ... Why AMD Not P4?

                    Geez, have you numbnuts ever heard of Sempron 64s?

                    I built my friend a Sempron 64 system with a S64 3000+. I then overclocked the Sempron to 2.8GHz and made it equal the performance of a FX-55. His processor is as good as mine.

                    Think before you speak. And don't speak about stuff you don't know about.

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