UAC, do you use it?

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  • AlecJ32
    Site Staff
    • Aug 2008
    • 502

    #1

    UAC, do you use it?

    Choose and discuss.
  • Busby, Paul (Bicci)

    #2
    Re: UAC, do you use it?

    Sacked it off completely on vista because i was so instantly put off by its irritance. Il give it another go when i move to W7 but i can see myself doing the exact same thing tbh.

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    • Shawn Zipay
      Managing Communities 24/7
      • Apr 2003
      • 68986

      #3
      Re: UAC, do you use it?

      Originally posted by [USAC]N|Cpl.B1scu1T[FM]
      Sacked it off completely on vista because i was so instantly put off by its irritance. Il give it another go when i move to W7 but i can see myself doing the exact same thing tbh.
      The UAC in Win7 is much improved, especially on the lower notification settings.

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      • dailybacon
        DailyDB
        • Mar 2009
        • 8

        #4
        Re: UAC, do you use it?

        UAC on Vista is too annoying for The Bret's liking, baby!

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        • =98=
          Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 10299

          #5
          Re: UAC, do you use it?

          I'm sure it's useful for users with low computer skills, but for people who know what they are doing, it's not really necessary hence why I disabled it :)

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          • Shawn Zipay
            Managing Communities 24/7
            • Apr 2003
            • 68986

            #6
            Re: UAC, do you use it?

            Originally posted by Alex98uk
            I'm sure it's useful for users with low computer skills, but for people who know what they are doing, it's not really necessary hence why I disabled it :)
            That's not a very good argument at all.

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            • [MyIS]Dan
              MyInternetServices.com
              Support
              • Aug 2005
              • 1060

              #7
              Re: UAC, do you use it?

              I agree with Alex here; we (experienced users) would know when we wanted something to install, a new user to a computer, my Dad for example has no idea what he's doing on his PC so something like UAC (Vista style) would be of some help to him. I'm only talking Vista level as I have not had much of a chance to use it in Windows 7.

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              • AlecJ32
                Site Staff
                • Aug 2008
                • 502

                #8
                Re: UAC, do you use it?

                Originally posted by [MyIS]Zips
                That's not a very good argument at all.
                Indeed, especially considering that UAC is a very important feature of Windows Vista/Windows 7's security improvements.

                I can understand why somebody would dislike the prompting, which is what makes Windows 7's adjustable notifications so great. If you don't want the prompts, you can lower the level.

                However, I think UAC is extremely useful, even for knowledgeable users. UAC isn't a child-safe lock. It's a crucial component of Vista's improved security architecture. Prompting is only one part of UAC, which has other more important features such as registry virtualization and multiple security tokens for administrators. Plus, there is a lot more going on behind the scenes with the prompts than meets the eyes. On Windows XP, and on Windows Vista/Windows 7 when UAC is off, any program run by an administrator has a full administrative security token, and can do as it pleases. With UAC enabled, only the programs that need administrative privileges are given the administrative rights. When a program wants to elevate it's privileges, UAC prompts the user before doing so.

                I was looking for whether or not users felt the extra security was worth the prompting.

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                • Iwantcable
                  Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 2362

                  #9
                  Re: UAC, do you use it?

                  I have it turned off in Vista.

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                  • Skaggy
                    Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 1974

                    #10
                    Re: UAC, do you use it?

                    Turned off in Vista.

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                    • Busby, Paul (Bicci)

                      #11
                      Re: UAC, do you use it?

                      Originally posted by AbJ32
                      I was looking for whether or not users felt the extra security was worth the prompting.
                      Personally think no, for a basic home computer being used by an adequately capable person i dont think its worth the prompting.

                      For a mission critical system (such as a server storing account details) or a computer being used by mixed or fairly incapable computer users i would say it definitely has its advantages but as far as vista goes, I dont think i would push it as far as 'its worth the prompting' but remember i havent had much experience with any of the tweaks microsoft have made to the feature so my thoughts are kind of without experience to back it up.

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                      • CaptainKirk

                        #12
                        Re: UAC, do you use it?

                        Stock settings on Vista. The prompts really aren't that annoying...

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                        • Hellsent 2.0
                          Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 2137

                          #13
                          Re: UAC, do you use it?

                          I'm on XP..so No I don't use it...

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                          • .Gunfire
                            OT Vet.
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 974

                            #14
                            Re: UAC, do you use it?

                            Disabled, I agree with Alex's argument.

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                            • AlecJ32
                              Site Staff
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 502

                              #15
                              Re: UAC, do you use it?

                              Originally posted by [USAC]N|Cpl.B1scu1T[FM]
                              For a mission critical system (such as a server storing account details)
                              A database server isn't going to be running with administrative privileges anyways, so UAC wouldn't do anything.

                              Originally posted by [USAC]N|Cpl.B1scu1T[FM]
                              or a computer being used by mixed or fairly incapable computer users i would say it definitely has its advantages but as far as vista goes, I dont think i would push it as far as 'its worth the prompting' but remember i havent had much experience with any of the tweaks microsoft have made to the feature so my thoughts are kind of without experience to back it up.
                              It would only be useful in that situation if they enabled "Prompting with Credentials", since most incapable users aren't going to know what to do when the prompt comes up, and will likely just click "Continue" anyways, thus allowing every program that asks for elevated privileges to be granted such privileges.

                              And I've yet to hear a compelling arguement as to how the more important features of UAC, such as Registry Virtualization and Multiple Security Tokens aren't useful to even the most knowledgeable users. UAC adopts the same model of only using superuser rights when necessary that Unix-like operating systems have been using for almost 40 years.

                              Originally posted by CaptainKirk
                              Stock settings on Vista. The prompts really aren't that annoying...
                              That's my opinion....I've been using the default UAC setting on Vista with no real-time anti-virus protection for almost a year now, and I'm yet to get a single virus infection.

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