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  • =98=
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 10299

    #46
    Re: Need help making new pc

    Both good parts.

    Could have saved some money and just got the X-Fi XtremeGamer though.

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    • Busby, Paul (Bicci)

      #47
      Re: Need help making new pc

      Originally posted by Alex98uk
      Accidental delete. Sorry.
      Ah ok np mate. Doesnt look like it matters anymore anyway

      Im not a fan of creative products, their driver support is appalling. I opted for the Auzentech after owning an XFI & an EMU (proffessional audio card) and im NEVER going back to creative. The build quality and versitility is far superior and its very noticable. I am a bit of an audiophile though so im extremely picky with these kind of things. Only gripe i have is the software interface is a bit pants.

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      • VonBarter

        #48
        Re: Need help making new pc

        Guys I am out of my tree I will be returning two video cards this is final I bought this one:


        PNY VCG98GX2XPB-OC GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

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        • =98=
          Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 10299

          #49
          Re: Need help making new pc

          The 9800GX2 performs worse than the 4870.

          Should have stuck with the better ATI/AMD card.

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          • Busby, Paul (Bicci)

            #50
            Re: Need help making new pc

            i dont understand why you asked us for help then ignored what we said?

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            • VonBarter

              #51
              Re: Need help making new pc

              Originally posted by [11]O|Maj.B1scu1T[FM]
              i dont understand why you asked us for help then ignored what we said?

              I got what you said: Ok I know have all three video cards at my house which one should I keep and which two should I return? pLEASE EXPLAIN WHY, YOUR CHART SHOWS 9800 GX2 THE BEST...

              1) PNY VCG98GX2XPB-OC GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI

              2) VisionTek 900244 Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

              3) MSI RX3870X2-T2D1G OC Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video
              Card

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              • =98=
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 10299

                #52
                Re: Need help making new pc

                Radeon 4870 for sure.

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                • Eagle101

                  #53
                  Re: Need help making new pc

                  ^ For sure stay with that, imho the 9 series meh wouldent be spending money on them. They are not next gen cards. The 4870 is far more superior than the 9series.

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                  • Busby, Paul (Bicci)

                    #54
                    Re: Need help making new pc

                    The GX2 may have better FPS but its basically 2 8800GTs stuck together and not very efficiant at delivering the power from both chips so therefore a bit of a waste of electricity. The 4870 doesnt perform aswell overall as the GX2 but its a much newer piece of electronics and wont take an entire powerplant to keep running

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                    • =98=
                      Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 10299

                      #55
                      Re: Need help making new pc

                      Originally posted by [11]O|Maj.B1scu1T[FM]
                      The GX2 may have better FPS but its basically 2 8800GTs stuck together and not very efficiant at delivering the power from both chips so therefore a bit of a waste of electricity. The 4870 doesnt perform aswell overall as the GX2 but its a much newer piece of electronics and wont take an entire powerplant to keep running
                      Nope, the 4870 performs better than the GX2, except in Crysis.

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                      • AvalancheDiode
                        Need more squeezing
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 988

                        #56
                        Re: Need help making new pc

                        9800 GX2 is great if you put water cooling on it and "overclock" two G92 chips to 675MHz and beyond. Estimated expenditure, though, is expected to be around $380 at least for off-the-shelf parts, unless you make your own water block. The cost for DIY approach varies depending on how much free tool and free material you can acquire.

                        For the money, it doesn't make much sense to do so. Get one 4870 will get you covered until 2010 when DX11 comes out. I still don't see many games will use PhysX. Even that eventually happens, a cheap 8600GTS will be enough. The price will be so low that you won't care when it stops working.

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                        • Busby, Paul (Bicci)

                          #57
                          Re: Need help making new pc

                          Originally posted by Alex98uk
                          Nope, the 4870 performs better than the GX2, except in Crysis.
                          Are we talkign about the 4870 X2?

                          Iv only really seen the regualr 4870 beat the GX2 in one or two games, which benchmarks are you looking at?


                          if we are talking price per performance that yeah but im pretty sure the GX2 is overall a faster performer.

                          anandtech is the one im looking at.

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                          • AvalancheDiode
                            Need more squeezing
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 988

                            #58
                            Re: Need help making new pc

                            CrossFire and SLI, Nvidia's GeForce GTX 260 and 280, AMD's Radeon HD 4850 and 4870--they're all here in a battle royale, with comparisons to previous-generation boards that'll help you decide just how much graphics horsepower your next machine needs!


                            Tom's just published an extensive graphics card round up. Though the drivers they use for the test are kind of old and no 4870X2, the article is still worth digging. At high resolution and high AA, 9800 GX2 can be constantly out-classed by 4870/4850. It really depends on which resolution you game.

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                            • Busby, Paul (Bicci)

                              #59
                              Re: Need help making new pc

                              Thanks, i stopped checking toms hardware charts a while ago as it seems they take so long to update them.

                              I would prefer a single GPU over a botch job dual one like the GX2 even if it isnt *consistantly* better tbh.

                              HD4870 FTW!!

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