Need help making new pc

[.Gunfire]

Re: Need help making new pc

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042&Tpk=Antec%20Three%20Hundred

great case, if you know how to use a drill you can have great cable management.

[Busby, Paul (Bicci)]

Re: Need help making new pc

Im pretty sure you could fit a Q6600 and a HD4850 into the budget. All depends if he wishes to overclock as if he has no desire to then maybe a cheaper motherboard (G31, P31 etc) they aren't fantastic motherboards but they are perfectly functional. If he wants to overclock then yeah the 45nm Dual is probs the better way too go.

If he uses his existing windows license then he can definitely go all out.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...hree%20Hundred

great case, if you know how to use a drill you can have great cable management.

I mentioned this case up in my first reply. What do you mean by drilling? link?

[AlecJ32]

Re: Need help making new pc

I mentioned this case up in my first reply. What do you mean by drilling? link?

He probably means drilling holes to run wires behind the tray. Not sure if a drill would be the best way to go about that, though.

[=98=]

Re: Need help making new pc

Yup. But, since there is no window on the Antec 300, it isn't that necessary.

[Busby, Paul (Bicci)]

Re: Need help making new pc

I quite like to have all my cables tucked away/taped down regardless to be honest. I guess its anal more than anything else but i like opening the side of the case to clean, add new parts, replace broken parts etc and see a nice open spacious tidy case. Although its not nearly as much of an issue with SATA technology, it does also help with the airflow.

So yeah im intreged about this drill thing...?

[VonBarter]

Re: Need help making new pc

Here the website I would like to Order from http://www.newegg.com/
tHANKS FOR YOUR HELP... iN THIS QUEST.....I am always strong hehe...

$650.00 us dollars max......

Tell me which Option you like:


Option 1) Tigerdirect



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TSD-500AS5 :: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB Hard Drive - 7200RPM, 32MB, SATA-300, OEM $79.99
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[Busby, Paul (Bicci)]

Re: Need help making new pc

Could have tidied up the post to make it a little easier for us to see but anyway... out of those i wud go with the second one but why AMD might i ask? intel C2 are much stronger chips at the moment. I assume that u dont need a new windows license seeing as u havent included it in the above posts.

Here is an example of what i would do with $650 in your shoes


Bear in mind that still has 4GB of ram and a much better GFX card than the ones you suggested, aswell as having a C2D processor :)

[VonBarter]

Re: Need help making new pc

sorry please repost can't read the hardware you choose. As far as AMD I always have had good luck with them and the price is right. How much difference is there? nano seconds?? explain.
Guys please tell me make and model that I should get ...
thanks

[Busby, Paul (Bicci)]

Re: Need help making new pc

if you right click on the image and save it to your desktop the you should be able to zoom in on it using the image preview software tha tcomes with windows.

Right click it - save image as

[media]http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/Biscuiteer/Picture3-2.png[/media]
there is a direct link for it, if you click this it should be full sized unless your browser re sizes it.

[=98=]

Re: Need help making new pc

Intel's chips greatly outperform AMD's at the moment. However, Phenoms are still nice if you're not after pure performance.

[AvalancheDiode]

Re: Need help making new pc

Current generation of Phenom is not any different from Barcelona core Opterons. They are essentially the same thing with different packaging. While 4x Opteron (16 cores) are very good for virtualization servers and high performance computing architecture (IBM Roadrunner), they are not of much use for desktops. Most desktop software were written to utilize limited paging size and are quite predictable in nature. Phenom's limited and slow L3 cache becomes hindrance to performance in this case, though you probably won't feel a thing most of the time.

Granted, if a program is well written to utilize only 512kB cache for each thread, then the true power of Phenom will be revealed. Intel Core 2 will take a hit once data and thread size are much larger (at least 4 times) than L2. That's why people in IT business say that AMD "scales better," because it does. Nonetheless, not one commercial software had done that. Intel had learned this the hard lesson that nobody will rewrite millions of code just to run their programs faster on Itanium. AMD, on the other hand, took different approach in favor of server market. Their "reputation" was mostly hurt by the TLB error, core 02 defect and the hype they failed to deliver in late 2007.

Most Phenom overclockers notice significant performance gain once they get northbridge overclocked over certain level (which is not much). The limited and slow L3 really kills Phenom's performance in terms of raw performance.

Though my 9850 will arrive today, I can't recommend others to use current generation Phenom. 45nm Deneb may be, if they are cheap, under $235 and perform within 90% of Yorkfields at comparable frequency.

[VonBarter]

Re: Need help making new pc

Thanks for all replys. What about video card Nivida or ATI $300.00 range if I need too. what should I get brand model make please

Also memory should I get 800 1066 or other is there difference. will I notice a difference during game play

[VonBarter]

Re: Need help making new pc

Ok what about this I know it more money but what the hell : I have a cool mater 600 watt power supply all ready. Will that be enough plus all this?

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LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-04 - OEM Item #: N82E16827106263 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
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COOLER MASTER Elite 330 RC-330-KKN1-GP Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail Item #: N82E16811119115 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$5.00 Instant

$44.99 $39.99 1
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM Item #: N82E16822136260 Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy
$294.99 1
Open Box: ASUS ENGTX260/HTDP/896M GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card Item #: N82E16814121257R Return Policy: Open Box Item Return Policy
$249.99 1
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail Item #: N82E16820231166 Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy -$40.00 Instant

$144.99 $104.99 1
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80580Q9300 - Retail Item #: N82E16819115043 Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy
$259.99 1
COOLER MASTER Neon LED TLF-S12-EB 120mm Blue LED Case Fan - Retail Item #: N82E16811999061 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$7.99 1

• ASUS P5QL PRO LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Item #: N82E16813131329 Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy
• ASUS Gift - ASUS graphic card bundle - Retail Item #: N82E16800998112 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$49.99 Combo

$144.98 $94.99 Subtotal:$1,076.92

[=98=]

Re: Need help making new pc

Replace the Q9300 with the cheaper Q6600 G0

Replace the GTX260 with a Radeon 4870

[Eagle101]

Re: Need help making new pc

^ I like it, i would listen to that OP you save money and get a better card with matching perfromance of an GTX280 and a quad that can OC pretty well.