Dude?

[sava700]

Re: Dude?

For a gaming machine anything over 20 is too many... kill services that you don't need like if your on a desktop and not wireless then turn off that service, makes sense if your not using it then turn it off...like lights in your home. Out of 5 computers in my home not a one is running anything over 35 and the pc i'm on right now at my desk at work is only running 34 and thats with a script logic controller and being setup through a domain network. Automatic updates..turn em off, run it manually as you get time or on patch tuesday...System restore is a must go as its pointless to use and will only cause file corruption..best to just make a "Image" of the drive using something like Ghost or Acronis, put it on a disk when you get a chance and use that to go back to if you run into a issue.

[=98=]

Re: Dude?

For a gaming machine anything over 20 is too many... kill services that you don't need like if your on a desktop and not wireless then turn off that service, makes sense if your not using it then turn it off...like lights in your home. Out of 5 computers in my home not a one is running anything over 35 and the pc i'm on right now at my desk at work is only running 34 and thats with a script logic controller and being setup through a domain network. Automatic updates..turn em off, run it manually as you get time or on patch tuesday...System restore is a must go as its pointless to use and will only cause file corruption..best to just make a "Image" of the drive using something like Ghost or Acronis, put it on a disk when you get a chance and use that to go back to if you run into a issue.

Why bother when a modern PC can play just as well with them turned on?

[sava700]

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Why bother when a modern PC can play just as well with them turned on?

every little bit helps when your in the quest to pwn the noob

[=98=]

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Seems like a lot of action for not a lot of gain.

[jake_]

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Seems like a lot of action for not a lot of gain.

:nod:

every little bit helps when your in the quest to pwn the noob

You may technically and mathematically be getting better performance out of your PC. But if showed you 2 identical PC's to mine where one had 60 processes and one had 20, do you think you could actually tell the difference in a game?


I know I can't.

[sava700]

Re: Dude?

:nod:



You may technically and mathematically be getting better performance out of your PC. But if showed you 2 identical PC's to mine where one had 60 processes and one had 20, do you think you could actually tell the difference in a game?


I know I can't.

Yeah I could.. maybe not in raw visual effects but I'm sure I could point out a CtD end result or another flaw caused by a MS service or Windows process that has been known to cause issues with many games.

I remember stripping down Windows 3.1.... you prob wouldn't.

[Namakan]

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64ish area with 40%

[jake_]

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Yeah I could.. maybe not in raw visual effects but I'm sure I could point out a CtD end result or another flaw caused by a MS service or Windows process that has been known to cause issues with many games.

Now you're talking about an error caused by a process. Originally, you were saying that cutting down the number of processes (implying that you had already stopped ones that interfered with the program you were trying to use) would greatly increase performance in a video game.

You had 3 legit options: 1) provide a reasonable counter-argument, 2) not say anything at all, or 3) concede you might be wrong.

You didn't do any of those.:p

[sava700]

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Now you're talking about an error caused by a process. Originally, you were saying that cutting down the number of processes (implying that you had already stopped ones that interfered with the program you were trying to use) would greatly increase performance in a video game.

You had 3 legit options: 1) provide a reasonable counter-argument, 2) not say anything at all, or 3) concede you might be wrong.

You didn't do any of those.:p

Can't give a resonable counter-argument cause there are no fact numbers I could give to show besides 3dmarks but hell standing on your head and farting can show a difference of a number or two between tests..so 1 is out, #2 well I had to add that some have been known to cause issues so you would know, 3# hard to say I'm wrong after I've sat here and proved I can run a lean system with a certain amount of processes and gain SOME performance increases... Either way it helps your system out and free's up system resources at the same time.

[jake_]

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3# hard to say I'm wrong after I've sat here and proved I can run a lean system with a certain amount of processes and gain SOME performance increases... Either way it helps your system out and free's up system resources at the same time.

That doesn't prove cutting processes from 60 down to 20 will make a game run faster if you already have a system with at least 2GB of RAM. With 2GB of RAM you can easily have 60 processes at 40% running without any problems

Anyway, you haven't actually proved anything, just made statements, you don't have any data at all to support your claims. Having made your original statement, you have the burden of proof, not anyone else. If you can't actually prove your argument then don't make it.

:rantoff:

btw, I have built my own PC from the ground up too. I think I might know what I'm talking about too.

[sava700]

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That doesn't prove cutting processes from 60 down to 20 will make a game run faster if you already have a system with at least 2GB of RAM. With 2GB of RAM you can easily have 60 processes at 40% running without any problems

Anyway, you haven't actually proved anything, just made statements, you don't have any data at all to support your claims. Having made your original statement, you have the burden of proof, not anyone else. If you can't actually prove your argument then don't make it.

:rantoff:

btw, I have built my own PC from the ground up too. I think I might know what I'm talking about too.

I didn't say you didn't know what you were talking about..but you can't withdraw from the fact that cutting down in running processes helps over all performance. Your asking for fact numbers when they could differ no matter what I or anyone else gave...The proof of having a difference of performance is easy to see from the drop of memory usage regardless if your using 512 or 4gigs..its a difference none the less. If you can't see that a drop from 60 to 20 doesn't make a difference then you need to go back to whoever showed you how to build your computer and get your money back or give em a good slap in the face cause they are the ones that have no idea what is going on.

But hey we could sit here and argue this till we are blue in the face which kinda gets way off topic... I gave him a good place to start with getting his services down thats pretty much where I'll leave off. Have a good day! :)