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  • Vasquez

    #1

    Ok, another question for you hardware gurus:

    Hi guys,

    After the great response on the headphone thread, I have another Q that I hope you guys can help me with. I apologise if this is off-topic, but it is related to COD4 in that, I'm having issues with COD4 :)

    I recently bought a HP m9152p. It's vista-64bit, 4gb mem, 2xSATA HD's and an nVidia 8500 GT card. When purchasing, I asked the lady if I can upgrade the card to say, a 9600. She said "sure you can". So I did just that the day after.

    And then the issues began...

    After a good bit of COD4'ing, I hear a drive start up (I assume it's a drive.. *something* starts whirring. I've ruled out the CD-ROMS). When it does this, the game starts to judder judder judder. (Perhaps the GFX-card fan? Id unno)..

    After this, perhaps 15 mins, my screen will go blank, and it's locked up. The monitor says "no input signal" and then "Going to Sleep". I have to hold down the power-button on the main PC case and start all over. I don't even get a blue screen of death. One time I did get a crash dump report, and it mentioned the display drivers.

    Yesterday when playing, I didn't even get the black screen straight away. I got a "Input resolution is not correct, please set to 1650 x 1050", but the machine had locked up by then, so I guess this is just another iteration of it dying.

    I briefly considered overheating, but it happens so fast some times that I really don't know... The internals seem quite cool however the PSU is pumping serious hot air out. I am wondering if it is, in fact, the PSU. I read somewhere that the PSU's that are put in pre-built machines aren't actually that good and in the process of upgrading my video card, I've inadvertantly overpowered it?

    Anyone got experience of this? My old PC that overheated could be solved by cleaning the fans (this is brand new, however), but I always got a BSOD, never just "oh god, bye!".


    Many many thanks in advance to you lovely fellows.
  • L3adcannon

    #2
    How many watts is your PSU? I`m no hardware guru but I got lots of **** from my old PSU when I upgraded

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    • Vasquez

      #3
      Originally posted by L3adCannon
      How many watts is your PSU? I`m no hardware guru but I got lots of **** from my old PSU when I upgraded
      This is it, I have no idea :) Anything I can use to find out?

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      • Xtreme

        #4
        Originally posted by Vasquez View Post
        This is it, I have no idea :) Anything I can use to find out?
        Yes, you can open up the case and look at the side of the PSU and it should say what the watts are...anything under a 500 watt psu you should upgrade it.


        When you find out check this link out as a guide....

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        • Vasquez

          #5
          Originally posted by Xtreme View Post
          Yes, you can open up the case and look at the side of the PSU and it should say what the watts are...
          Holy crap Batman.... This may well be the issue.

          It says 350W... and then there's some things that look like stats, and below:

          "MAX OUTPUT 300W"..

          Eek?

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          • iQue
            Member
            • May 2007
            • 4925

            #6
            Correct, read the sticker and it should say Output: ~400 W or something like that

            Always, always check your PSU before buying new computer parts though! I had to upgrade mine when I bought my gfx card, the old one could easily have crashed the computer.

            EDIT: Well seems it was correct. 300 W? Not much these days... You really need to upgrade before your whole computer breaks down. Would be a shame to ruin a quadcore and a brand new gfx card.

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            • CptainCrunch
              I am the 1%
              • Oct 2007
              • 12976

              #7
              The powersupply will have a spares # on it, like 176763-001, you may be able to google that number and find a seller that tells what the wattage is.

              The sound you here before it goes down makes me think something is overheating and a fan is kicking on. The black out is the same thing I had when I was overtaxing my PSU. I had to replace it with a higher wattage.

              Most rigs you buy in the store, the PSU is designed for that and not much else. Its not impossible that youve gone over your power limit. I dont know my ATI cards, but if it is a high end card vs the 8500 you had, that would do it.

              EDIT: Wow, a lot of posts since then. AND yes, youre underpowered.

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              • Corkum
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 639

                #8
                This is indeed peculiar. My first assumption would have been your graphics card overheating, though you didn't mention any artifacting. 300w is a low wattage for a powersupply, however computers have actually been getting more efficient. As such, before you go out and spend more money, try taking the side off of your case and setting a box fan to blow on your components while playing. Pre-builts have notoriously bad air circulation. I would also download pcwizard or a comparable program to monitor your gpu temps.

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                • Xtreme

                  #9
                  300 watts?? yikes...1 hdd and 2 cd/dvd roms will put that thing out..lolz...just do yourself a favor and upgrade it...otherwise by keep trying to run it you may just kill it and have to upgrade anyways..like I said at least a 500watt psu will do the trick...and they are cheap...50 to 80 bucks i believe...anything above that is a bonus.

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                  • Vasquez

                    #10
                    Ok thanks for the advice guys. I'm heading out soon to buy a new PSU, I'll let you know how it goes.

                    And thanks to the mod for moving the thread, I didn't know this forum was here! :)

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                    • jake_
                      Fitter, Happier.
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 4959

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Vasquez View Post
                      Ok thanks for the advice guys. I'm heading out soon to buy a new PSU, I'll let you know how it goes.

                      And thanks to the mod for moving the thread, I didn't know this forum was here! :)

                      Make sure you get at least a 500 watt PSU...

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                      • Hellsent 2.0
                        Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 2137

                        #12
                        My advice: Dont ever buy pre-built ever ever ever again

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                        • Vasquez

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hellsent
                          My advice: Dont ever buy pre-built ever ever ever again
                          I understand and agree with you, unfortunately I didn't have much of a choice. I work from home as a software engineer and when my PC died, I was in the middle of a project and I *HAD* to replace it that day and it was the best-spec I could find in the limited time I had!

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                          • Xodus
                            Member
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 846

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Hellsent
                            My advice: Dont ever buy pre-built ever ever ever again
                            What's wrong with prebuilts? I love my XPS 420. Dell owns at making computers if you are willing to spend a few extra bucks. I don't have to worry about anything breaking within the next 2 years, and if it does I call dell and get a brand new one. I've done it before.

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                            • Vash2051

                              #15
                              Or you just pick the right parts for cheaper, enjoy the satisfaction of building it yourself, and still have it not crash. Did I mention most parts come with warranties too? Building it yourself will be the better choice until our computers are implanted in our heads...

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