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  • BIC

    #91
    Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

    Originally posted by Sir. AAK625
    Nobody here has magical powers. We do, however, possess an uncanny ability to look at the past and present decisions made by EA, and thus formulate our views based on those.

    When the past repeats itself so many times, you begin to notice that it's not a streak of bad luck, but an intentionall modus operandi.

    Sure, EA's games aren't really that bad. Hell, the only issues I've encountered with BF2 have been the exploitation of the grenade launcher's design and the ability to bunny hop. I read people's posts about BF2 and have trouble comprehending how they come up with all of these discrepancies.

    After you game, mod, get invited out by developers, test, game, mod, and everything all over again, you develop a keen sense of which games are going to be good and which are going to come in second or third.

    BF2142 will be second to Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, in all aspects aside from personal preferences of the player. You can't force a WW2 buff to like a semi-futuristic game, but they can admit when a game is made well.

    I gurantee it.
    If you like Quake style (run, jump, shoot, ....) you will PROBABLY like QW:ET, BUT if you like BF2 gameplay you will probably like BF2142. If I would like to play Unreal Tounament or Quake style, I would not play BF2 every night.

    Same for people that like Quake gameplay, they get bored very quickly with BF2: lack of action, not fast enough for them.

    Both games will be good, the graphics style will be different, but not as much as the gameplay....... no magic there

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    • AP_piano295

      #92
      Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

      Originally posted by BIC
      If you like Quake style (run, jump, shoot, ....) you will PROBABLY like QW:ET, BUT if you like BF2 gameplay you will probably like BF2142. If I would like to play Unreal Tounament or Quake style, I would not play BF2 every night.

      Same for people that like Quake gameplay, they get bored very quickly with BF2: lack of action, not fast enough for them.

      Both games will be good, the graphics style will be different, but not as much as the gameplay....... no magic there
      For a start this is not likely to be Quake style gameplay but Enemy Territory gameplay. This means fast paced but also highly tactical probably more so than BF2 in alot of ways. The only thing Quake about ET:QW is the Strogg alien invaders so your analogy is completely off.

      Also I would expect the new quake wars to have game play slowed more than the original. I think this because the vehicles have a way of forcing players to be more tactical because if you run in front of a tank... yeah. Often this stlye of run and cover gameplay is created by these highly dangerous vehicles, which leads to slower gameplay. This never happened in games like unreal tournament because the vehicles werent hugely powerful compared to the infantry.

      So in all probability if you liked BF2 you will probably like ET:QW

      People who were bored by BF2 and love games like Unreal and Quake will probably dislike ET:QW

      PS-Reasearch the game a bit before you try to tell other people what it's going to be like.

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      • The Crazy Idiot

        #93
        Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

        I'm not an EA fanboy, but consider how often engines are reused. The quake III engine and the unreal engine have been used for bunches of games, yet they aren't called "glorified mods".

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        • Shellshock_1918
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          • Jun 2007
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          #94
          Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

          Originally posted by The Crazy Idiot
          I'm not an EA fanboy, but consider how often engines are reused. The quake III engine and the unreal engine have been used for bunches of games, yet they aren't called "glorified mods".
          Cause they aren't crap and full of bugs.

          The shooting aspect of the BF2 engine is quite possibly the worst I've ever seen. Just a few tweaks would fix it but EA is unwilling to commit.

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          • AP_piano295

            #95
            Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

            The thing is those engines are frankly exceptional, Doom was desighned with selling the engine to other companies in mind. The BF2 engine does provide good visuals but it cant compare to the Doom engine.

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            • machstem

              #96
              Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

              Originally posted by Sir. AAK625
              You Battlefield sheep need to explore new things. ET:QW is the new thing.
              It's the new thing that has yet to be released.

              Originally posted by H*S_Shellshock
              Cause they aren't crap and full of bugs.

              The shooting aspect of the BF2 engine is quite possibly the worst I've ever seen. Just a few tweaks would fix it but EA is unwilling to commit.
              I find the shooting just fine. :p

              Originally posted by AP_piano295
              The thing is those engines are frankly exceptional, Doom was desighned with selling the engine to other companies in mind. The BF2 engine does provide good visuals but it cant compare to the Doom engine.
              It can and it has. The Doom engine hasn't shown anything that the BF franchise is based on; large area maps with details structures, vehicles and infantry models.

              I was a big COD fan, and when they released UO I had and still have so much fun. They had been able to finally do it, but the BF Vietnam engine tweaks really set it apart for its time, and still to this day.

              The BF2 engine is very unique in that it can allow so much to run at once, and when the appropriate servers are running them it develops into nothing else like it. 32+ player maps and servers is where its at.

              PEACE

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              • IndiQa

                #97
                Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

                Well I will be getting this this fall that is for sure.

                Some fine tweaking of the engine is always needed but what "NEW" features should there be ?????

                It is a combat game in combat there are shooters and shootees... You have weapons, armour, intel and death. Whether it is now or 100-1000 years in the future. War is War. Dead is Dead. If you ain't been there then you don't know..

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                • mrkidkill

                  #98
                  Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

                  pppppppppppppssssssssst......Developers.....add search lights to the mechs and night ruined city maps...................................

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                  • Mr.Guybrush II

                    #99
                    Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

                    If you ask many modders out there about ET:QW's they'd be able to tear apart the trailers and screenshots. I doubt Quake Wars will be 'all that', and those people that buy the game before testing are mad. It's likely imo to be far more arcade style action, action that i don't want.

                    I've never been one to like EA, however, Quake games were fun, but have never changed its formula. Now they've finally realised how to evolve the game, i just don't think it's going to work. Hell i may be proved wrong, it maybe an excellent game. But don't you all make the mistake of buying it without playing it. Try out a demo/beta first and then make your mind up, i was orginally not going to buy bf2 due to the EA tag. However, playing the beta changed my mind.

                    I believe many of the MODs being developed on these forums have FAR more originality than Quake Wars/BF2142 will ever have. You all must remember, that a few good trailers doesn't mean jack. Hell i made that mistake with unreal2, and won't be making the same mistake again!

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                    • WinnieNorway

                      #100
                      Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

                      I can't wait to see the "Middle East" army of 2142.

                      Not sure if they will have anything more than what they have currently in BF2. With Oil gone in the next 30 years what will the Middle East have as income?

                      In The Middle East Army 2142, I guess we will have:
                      "Suicide Mech" - a man on a camel packed with explosive. Can only be effective amongst crowds of innocent civilians. Will be promoted to Martyr Mech when mission is successful.
                      "Flag Burning Mech" - They won't capture flags, they'll burn them whilst shouting "God is great"
                      "Stoning Mech" - These will move around in groups, which will disappear quickly around the nearest corner when fired at. You have to be under 14 to play this mech and your weapon unlock will be a state-of-the-art slingshot.
                      "Bleeding Mech" - These will have blood trickling down their heads and will rhythmically beat their chests with two arms. A weapon unlock will be large pictures of radical Mullahs and Ayatollahs which can be waved aggressively at opposing forces. A special ability will be morphing into "Flag Burning Mech" when sufficient rank/experienced is gained.
                      "Angry Mech" - Basic rank-and-file, the most common mech. Whenever the opposing armies appear they will shout incoherently and gesticulate with their arms in a random manner. These mech will only be effective in groups, the larger the group the better. When isolated these mechs will cry and beg for mercy and will deny being "the enemy".

                      Female players will be given the option of totally covering their mechs in a black or light blue material so as not to offend the male players. In addition they will have to move at least 10 meters behind any male player and can never apply for the role of commander.

                      The Middle East in 2142 will not be a setting for any of the battlefields. With oil not a fuel source in 2142 there is no interest for anyone to go there or care what happens. With no foreign armies in the Middle East they will do what they have always done there.......fight each other in a cowardly way.

                      No medals or ribbons will be available to this army just green headbands and lots of virgins.

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                      • Pirelli

                        #101
                        Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

                        Originally posted by Sir. AAK625
                        You Battlefield sheep need to explore new things. ET:QW is the new thing.
                        Your in the wrong forum for this - take it to totalquakewars.com!

                        Originally posted by WinnieNorway
                        I can't wait to see the "Middle East" army of 2142.

                        Not sure if they will have anything more than what they have currently in BF2. With Oil gone in the next 30 years what will the Middle East have as income?

                        In The Middle East Army 2142, I guess we will have:
                        "Suicide Mech" - a man on a camel packed with explosive. Can only be effective amongst crowds of innocent civilians. Will be promoted to Martyr Mech when mission is successful.
                        "Flag Burning Mech" - They won't capture flags, they'll burn them whilst shouting "God is great"
                        "Stoning Mech" - These will move around in groups, which will disappear quickly around the nearest corner when fired at. You have to be under 14 to play this mech and your weapon unlock will be a state-of-the-art slingshot.
                        "Bleeding Mech" - These will have blood trickling down their heads and will rhythmically beat their chests with two arms. A weapon unlock will be large pictures of radical Mullahs and Ayatollahs which can be waved aggressively at opposing forces. A special ability will be morphing into "Flag Burning Mech" when sufficient rank/experienced is gained.
                        "Angry Mech" - Basic rank-and-file, the most common mech. Whenever the opposing armies appear they will shout incoherently and gesticulate with their arms in a random manner. These mech will only be effective in groups, the larger the group the better. When isolated these mechs will cry and beg for mercy and will deny being "the enemy".

                        Female players will be given the option of totally covering their mechs in a black or light blue material so as not to offend the male players. In addition they will have to move at least 10 meters behind any male player and can never apply for the role of commander.

                        The Middle East in 2142 will not be a setting for any of the battlefields. With oil not a fuel source in 2142 there is no interest for anyone to go there or care what happens. With no foreign armies in the Middle East they will do what they have always done there.......fight each other in a cowardly way.

                        No medals or ribbons will be available to this army just green headbands and lots of virgins.

                        Who have ever said its Middle East........

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                        • ahhsai

                          #102
                          Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

                          Originally posted by WinnieNorway
                          I can't wait to see the "Middle East" army of 2142.

                          Not sure if they will have anything more than what they have currently in BF2. With Oil gone in the next 30 years what will the Middle East have as income?

                          In The Middle East Army 2142, I guess we will have:
                          "Suicide Mech" - a man on a camel packed with explosive. Can only be effective amongst crowds of innocent civilians. Will be promoted to Martyr Mech when mission is successful.
                          "Flag Burning Mech" - They won't capture flags, they'll burn them whilst shouting "God is great"
                          "Stoning Mech" - These will move around in groups, which will disappear quickly around the nearest corner when fired at. You have to be under 14 to play this mech and your weapon unlock will be a state-of-the-art slingshot.
                          "Bleeding Mech" - These will have blood trickling down their heads and will rhythmically beat their chests with two arms. A weapon unlock will be large pictures of radical Mullahs and Ayatollahs which can be waved aggressively at opposing forces. A special ability will be morphing into "Flag Burning Mech" when sufficient rank/experienced is gained.
                          "Angry Mech" - Basic rank-and-file, the most common mech. Whenever the opposing armies appear they will shout incoherently and gesticulate with their arms in a random manner. These mech will only be effective in groups, the larger the group the better. When isolated these mechs will cry and beg for mercy and will deny being "the enemy".

                          Female players will be given the option of totally covering their mechs in a black or light blue material so as not to offend the male players. In addition they will have to move at least 10 meters behind any male player and can never apply for the role of commander.

                          The Middle East in 2142 will not be a setting for any of the battlefields. With oil not a fuel source in 2142 there is no interest for anyone to go there or care what happens. With no foreign armies in the Middle East they will do what they have always done there.......fight each other in a cowardly way.

                          No medals or ribbons will be available to this army just green headbands and lots of virgins.
                          lol, thats pretty funny, but some people are gonna get offended, i can smell it....

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                          • AP_piano295

                            #103
                            Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

                            Originally posted by [B40K]Mr.Guyb II
                            If you ask many modders out there about ET:QW's they'd be able to tear apart the trailers and screenshots. I doubt Quake Wars will be 'all that', and those people that buy the game before testing are mad. It's likely imo to be far more arcade style action, action that i don't want.

                            I've never been one to like EA, however, Quake games were fun, but have never changed its formula. Now they've finally realised how to evolve the game, i just don't think it's going to work. Hell i may be proved wrong, it maybe an excellent game. But don't you all make the mistake of buying it without playing it. Try out a demo/beta first and then make your mind up, i was orginally not going to buy bf2 due to the EA tag. However, playing the beta changed my mind.

                            I believe many of the MODs being developed on these forums have FAR more originality than Quake Wars/BF2142 will ever have. You all must remember, that a few good trailers doesn't mean jack. Hell i made that mistake with unreal2, and won't be making the same mistake again!
                            You need to stop drawing paralells between Quake and ET:QW this is a different company that makes different games. THIS IS NOT QUAKE STYLE GAMEPLAY BUT ET STYLE GAMEPLAY. Which is very similar to BF2, the only thing ET:QW is taking from Quake is the story.

                            QUAKE IS NOT ENEMY TERRITORY

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                            • WinnieNorway

                              #104
                              Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

                              Offended?
                              It is only a humourous observation.
                              It is not like I drew any cartoons! lol

                              People make fun of me all the time, a hazard when you are fat I'm afraid. But I accept it. So fire away with fat comments if you like.

                              I was in Gulf War 91 with many other Middle Eastern Countries as Allies. In fact, we liberated Kuwait and defended Saudi Arabia. I have no problems with Arabs, Persians, Berbers or Beduin. I don't have anything against any of the religions there either. I do have a problem with the extremists there though. They are idiots and deserve to be ridiculed!
                              I made fun of the idiots, big deal.

                              The real joke, if you noticed, was our dependence on oil. Pehaps I was too subtle for you. Next time I'll draw pictures.............then some will get upset!

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                              • BIC

                                #105
                                Re: New Battlefield 2142 Screenshots

                                PS-Reasearch the game a bit before you try to tell other people what it's going to be like.
                                I read everything on both games. My interpretation is maybe different than yours.

                                Also I would expect the new quake wars to have game play slowed more than the original.
                                Yeah we all expect things in life, but it's not because we expect them that they will happen....

                                So in all probability if you liked BF2 you will probably like ET:QW
                                Probability ... like Casino

                                For a start this is not likely to be Quake style gameplay but Enemy Territory gameplay. This means fast paced but also highly tactical probably more so than BF2 in alot of ways.
                                Its sound like you have played the game already

                                Look,
                                I'm just saying that we cannot judge games before we play them. I think it makes sens, no? We sometimes expect this, but end up getting that. Many people said they would not buy EF, and did. Many people said they would stop palying BF2 because of this and that, they have not (for alot of them).

                                As of now talking about BF2142 and QW:ET is pure speculation. There is so many elements in a game to make it good or bad, that judging before trying is just expectations.

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