1.2 Patch Update

[Karmapolice]

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Ill second that. Only noobs who never plays as assault (cuz they dont know how to use the GL) whine about it. Assault class will die in next patch. How the f*ck u cant understand? It will be useless without GL! The only reason why i play as assault - GL. Smoke suck hard compare to APCs/Tanks smoke. Everybody (and me also) gonna use medics! MEC medic have awesome AK-101 as the assault, but what the point to play as assault when u have crappy decreased GL, when u can heal yourself and shoot from the same gun as meidc (or G36E)? GL useful only at city maps so i never play as assault on maps like Dragon valley.

Doh, stupid nub whiners.

I agree with that. Why does EA always have to listen to those whining noobs. They should focus on the game's performance. If those people don't like how the game goes they might as well toss their CDs through the window.

[dBs]

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So EA/DICE should give it to you for free?

Youll note I said nothing about being for or against its cost. I think they have every right in the world to charge for their product if they so choose.

What must be realized is that this is a game market that they are in. Now, game market demand curves are very elastic, meaning its a commodity product and theres more than ample other games that can be bought in its stead. Raising the cost even a little means a huge decrease in sales as people jump ship to other more "affordable" games. Its their gamble to take and being the consumer that I am I may just jump ship if I see to much of this going on. Ill just go to UT2K4 where the game itself is 10 disks large for the same cost because theres such an intense modding community and the game itself came with (or was updated with) so many things. I cant wait for UT2K7, but thats a completely different matter

[Lazy8s]

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So EA/DICE should give it to you for free?

Yeah why not? CS just gave new maps and new skins for free. Every FPS I have ever played has given out free maps/skins. Why? because if we get bored with a game that never gets updated we will move on to something else. They are already charging us for ranked servers even though the game advertises the unlockable weapons in multiplayer but never mentions you have to pay extra (which is false advertising). What you are missing is that they will lose a LOT more money if people get bored and quit renting servers than if they developed 3 maps for free.


And before you try to pull this one off topic, yes, you have to pay to rent regular servers but you COULD host them yourself for free the ONLY way to get ranked is to rent them from EA. And YES it's false advertising because there is no footnote saying "You can rank only on servers rented from EA" on the box. Notice how it spells out you have to have a connection that costs extra to play multiplayer online? That's because companies got sued in the past for advertising the multiplayer part without stating that you had to have a special connection to use it.

[t-readyroc]

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For all those complaining about the cost, there is a petition online which addresses that concern. It's not the cost that I have a problem with, though.

At any rate, I thought this thread was for discussion/comments about the patch, not the booster packs? Mods?

[Jesse]

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Wow, you must have gotten a different version of the game than I did. Mine came with armies, maps, weapons and vehicles. Exactly what it said it would come with.

What was yours missing?

So now you're comparing your example to the original game, as well as over generalizing. Congratulations weakening your arguement.

Mine has "armies, maps, weapons, and vehicles." It also was missing some of these, that were promised to us to be in the initial release, which for some odd reason got removed and are now being sold in expansion packs/booster packs. Furthermore, promised clan support, mod support, buddy lists, and a mountain of other general features that were promised, are nowhere to be found or even slated for a patch.

[EsP-Grandpa]

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No, 20k and I can afford the game but a lot of my friends cannot. And it's not about my friends anyways, if all they are going to do is reskin some guns and reskin some characters then why charge for it? A crybaby would be someone who cries over everything. Disliking something (such as splitting up a gaming community) is called feedback for the developers.

As for the min hardware specs, you are again avoiding the issue and trying to draw an analogy when it doesn't exist. Sure there are hardware specs, if I don't meet them I don't play, but I do meet them so I expect to be able to play. A more correct analogy would be if they came out with new maps that required 3gigs of ram to play. Would you be ****ed off? Sure you would because you bought the game and they just changed the rules. It's more analogous to NVIDIA charging for new drivers for your graphics card. Sure you can use the drivers you have now but if a game your playing is buggy with your driver version it sux to be you.

I'd ask for my 20k back but fortunately people like you who aren't crybabies suck it up when they raise the taxes across the nation to pay for my education. So on behalf of all the cribabies thank you for paying for my education and not crying about it. But seriously, if you're going to try to bash people try and keep it relevant.

Its not about your friends? In your orginal post, you say:
"...who cares if Al'Sharon can buy it? My friends can't and this means even less servers that I can play on because everyone will be running different mods...."
Sounds to me it's about your friends and being able to play with them. What did I miss?

You keep missing the whole point. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT!!! If all you think "all they are going to do is reskin some guns and reskin some characters" by all means keep you money. You dislike "splitting up the gaiming community"? Why?

As for my minimum hardware spec anology, it was pretty weak. It is a lot more like buying a computer game and expecting the company to add additional maps, armies, weapons, vehicles and planes to the game at no charge.

Comparing the expansion packs to video drivers is just as lame. New drivers for the video card is closer analogy to the patch, which is being provided for free. WITH the additional content of 2 new weapons. The last patch included a new map too. Maybe that is where EA is going wrong. They are nice and give some things away free with a patch, so people start thinking that it should all be free.

Hmm, full federal funding of 20K a year college tuition? :laugh: No loans? No Scholarships? I bow to your awsome skills at funding college.:yay:

[EsP-Grandpa]

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So now you're comparing your example to the original game, as well as over generalizing. Congratulations weakening your arguement.

Mine has "armies, maps, weapons, and vehicles." It also was missing some of these, that were promised to us to be in the initial release, which for some odd reason got removed and are now being sold in expansion packs/booster packs. Furthermore, promised clan support, mod support, buddy lists, and a mountain of other general features that were promised, are nowhere to be found or even slated for a patch.

Jesse, my anology WAS about the original game. The original computer was the original game, and the Whining customer was expecting it to be upgraded for free.

What "armies, maps, weapons, and vehicles." were you promised that would be in the original realse that were not. I must have missed that. What I got was exactly like the demo I played only with more "armies, maps, weapons, and vehicles". Did you have a different demo?

"Clan support, mod support ......... are nowhere to be found or even slated for a patch." Again, I missed where that was promised. It was not in the demo. There is nothing about it on my retail box.

[sethoo7]

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I don't understand most of you complaining like children. You need to learn how to read. The GL is still just as powerful, it is merely more focused than it was before, also if you play assault why don't you learn to use the G3 anyway? I disagree with there MP7 changes but it'll be for the better.

And why are you complaining about paying? Time is money and the fact that your $%@#%ing about it makes me assume you think the dev's time is worthless. They have to feed their families too. Wouldn't you want to get paid to do your job?

I have to say that the time they spent with the booster packs should have been what the SF expansion was. SF is good but doesn't seem to fit in to vanilla BF2 or the booster packs. The Armored Fury release is going to be what makes BF2 worth the price. I think level design for these is really going to feel like bf42 which in my opinion is for the better. I don't know how many times I felt that the vanilla maps some how didn't balance well between armored and infantry combat.

[imported_Bossman]

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I don't understand most of you complaining like children. You need to learn how to read. The GL is still just as powerful, it is merely more focused than it was before, also if you play assault why don't you learn to use the G3 anyway? I disagree with there MP7 changes but it'll be for the better.

G3 ain't available in clangames, duh. I predict the Medic will be the most popular class in clanmatches after the patch. It's going to be BF42 all over again.

[IndiQa]

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******** a Mine CAN be destroyed by hitting it with an explosive!!!!
Jesus what do they think are in the mines??? Non volitile materials ???

More stupidity...UH HUH...

Get real

[ghostdream]

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i should have posted this here instead but,

once again, this does nothing for the god like jets and the hideous non-effective AA guns/missles. why can't something be done to make the disparity better. you will find that most of the anger with the game comes from the lack of map packs (which are coming, of course at a price) and also the imbalance of the jets and the ground forces. do a search! can't EA see this. this is what most folks are arguing about and wanting changed. i'd rather go against 10 bunny hopping troops rather than 1 immortal jet any day-

my 2 cents.

-ghost

[SPC_Zotchman]

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I Have to agree with you. AA is nigh-impossible to use in this version. Just messing around on Wake, on the West IGLA station pre-game I was watching 3-4 jets flying above, trying to perform formation flying, just practicing, etc. I kept locking on them, firing, and hit around 5% of the time. And I used them correctly, b.t.w. Meh. Planes dominate.

[Aeonblue11]

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this is ludicrous. if the grenade launcher was only meant to be a jeep killer, how is it going to do that without a decent sized explosion (think about that). the grenade launcher, is supposed to replace hand grenades for the assault class. because its supposed to be an infantry killing machine.

[fdxd]

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I do hope Assault arent killed. G3 improvements sound good but the other classes guns have also improved. The grenade launcher changes sound interesting but i hope its still as effective for most situations. Like 2 hits for a jeep or the detonation radius isnt too small(i think AT should get theirs increased). I can handle the legthened reload time but again i hope its not too long where it defeats using the weapon.

[fdxd]

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this is ludicrous. if the grenade launcher was only meant to be a jeep killer, how is it going to do that without a decent sized explosion (think about that). the grenade launcher, is supposed to replace hand grenades for the assault class. because its supposed to be an infantry killing machine.

I hope its not too major to the point where you need more than 2 hits. One of things about a grenade launcher was it could damage vehicles if you pounded then and can even scare a tank or helicopter away sometimes. I also hope its good for stunning groups of people like in tiny room like those south flags on Gulf of Oman. We'll see. :)