Ownage-Gaming is a fairly new non-profit gaming ladder and tournament community giving out cash (apparently up to $1800) and other prizes. 60 teams and about 10 matches have been played so far, so if you're looking for an alternative to the big online leagues have a look around the site, create an account, and maybe sign your team up for one of the many ladders featured on the site.
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sounds cool i mite join themComment
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hmmm, i signued up, we'll see what happens, it wont hurt to sign up :) try it and see where it goes...Comment
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Leagues like this always pop up, and never pay out their cash. That, or the winning team will end up being affiliated with the ones running the league.Comment
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Cash prizes for non-LAN just seems too prone to hax.Comment
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Thank you for the support so far, and to everyone who has registered their team on the site, and registered on the forums.entRo wrote..
Ownage-Gaming has been running since July 2004, and while they do not have any advertisements, they do have corporate backing from Saints Servers Limited. In addition to which, a lot of the big league prize money is made from the league entry money ($18 / £10), so it is not as if we are just promising $1,800 from nothing.
Leagues like this always pop up, and never pay out their cash. That, or the winning team will end up being affiliated with the ones running the league.
Ownage-Gaming administrators are not allowed to enter their teams in to any of the ladders or leagues, so there is no possibility of winning teams being affiliated with those running the league.masterren wrote..
While you may think this to be true, cheating isn't nearly as big as a problem as you think. In addition to every player having to record a demo, an admin randomly spectating, and VAC (or Cheating Death), there are a few other reasons why cheating isn't an issue:
Cash prizes for non-LAN just seems too prone to hax.
1. Since most of the time we know what cheats can slip past Cheating-Death, the admin team will know exactly what kind of cheat to be looking for.
2. Past reputations of clans helps to decide whether they are cheating or not, as if they have been banned from many ladders, then things may be suspicious.
3. Many clans are in many multiple leagues and ladders, and so if they get caught cheating in one, word quickly spreads. This can be a method of preventing clans from cheating.Comment
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non-Lan league with $1,800 cash to the winner. Hmmm I can promise you, people will hack their asses off to get that 1800 dollars, and new hacks come out everyday, so Im sure most of the people that hack in the league will go by without getting caught. Right now, in CAL, people hack their asses off without getting a cash prize or any kind of prize at all, except maybe go up a level, and what do you think they'll do for $1,800?Comment
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lewis_saint wrote..
Thanks for clearing that up. However, I do agree with bega. Teams from CAL will probably enter and hack all through the season to get the prize money. You should have your admins watch the players with wallhack on, most hackers aren't so stupid as to stare right through walls or use aimbot in a match.
Thank you for the support so far, and to everyone who has registered their team on the site, and registered on the forums.
Ownage-Gaming has been running since July 2004, and while they do not have any advertisements, they do have corporate backing from Saints Servers Limited. In addition to which, a lot of the big league prize money is made from the league entry money ($18 / £10), so it is not as if we are just promising $1,800 from nothing.
Ownage-Gaming administrators are not allowed to enter their teams in to any of the ladders or leagues, so there is no possibility of winning teams being affiliated with those running the league.
While you may think this to be true, cheating isn't nearly as big as a problem as you think. In addition to every player having to record a demo, an admin randomly spectating, and VAC (or Cheating Death), there are a few other reasons why cheating isn't an issue:
1. Since most of the time we know what cheats can slip past Cheating-Death, the admin team will know exactly what kind of cheat to be looking for.
2. Past reputations of clans helps to decide whether they are cheating or not, as if they have been banned from many ladders, then things may be suspicious.
3. Many clans are in many multiple leagues and ladders, and so if they get caught cheating in one, word quickly spreads. This can be a method of preventing clans from cheating.
Leagues like yours should still charge the entry fee, but also make players fork over a down payment (of say $20?), and if they are caught cheating or drop from the league without notification, they don't get their down payment back. Most cheaters are younger, and you can usually recognize them by the way they act/talk online (you know the guys, "rofl gg u got pwned lolzozl homogaf /quit life plz lmao").Comment
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The $20 entry fee that entRo is talking about would keep the little kids that aren't serious about the league away. However, those that are serious and want to win the fair way would pay, not necessarily win the fair way, but it would definately keep most of the hackers out.Comment
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Show #Ana| some Luv , Idle and support !Comment
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lewis_saint wrote..
That all certainly makes sense, and will certainly help towards keeping the cheaters out. But unfortunately, there really is no way to be absolutely sure about online play. All the same, best of luck to you!
1. Since most of the time we know what cheats can slip past Cheating-Death, the admin team will know exactly what kind of cheat to be looking for.
2. Past reputations of clans helps to decide whether they are cheating or not, as if they have been banned from many ladders, then things may be suspicious.
3. Many clans are in many multiple leagues and ladders, and so if they get caught cheating in one, word quickly spreads. This can be a method of preventing clans from cheating.Comment
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Hey again,
Thank you again to the teams that have been paying the entry money and signing up to the leagues.
We have had one instance of cheating in the CS ladder only, whereby the other clan made a formal complaint. Myself amongst other admins watched the demo footage, before agreeing that one particular player was a cheater. We then took the necessary steps of banning the player from the site (including e-mail, ip address, steamid), and reducing the cheating clan's ladder ranking by 500 points.
Cheating clans who have paid to join the leagues do not get their money back if they are caught cheating, so hopefully this can be a deterrent.
The entry fee is £10 (around $18), so only fairly serious users will fork up.
Defade is right that there is no foolproof to be absolutely sure, but if you do as much as you can, hopefully cheating can be severely cut down.
Thanks again for all of your help so far lads.
If you are forum crazy, feel free to post at http://www.Ownage-Gaming.com/forum/ - and for the IRC active, #Ownage-Gaming on QuakeNet is appreciated.
It looks like the CS league may be starting fairly soon - within a few weeks, so I may keep you updated.
Oh, a final note, we are looking for new admins, particularly with Condition Zero and CS:Source, with a plentitude of benefits and rewards, so if anyone is interested, let me know.
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