Rival's Playbook

[EviLuoTioN]

its using your resources, bullet



besides, you really think he playes in a league? cal can detect that anyway....

[Pharlap]

bullet_head wrote..

Which is cheating, yes.

its called having the upper hand :)

just like having better fps, a better monitor, better mouse, better ping, etc, all advantages in their own right. unless were all playing on exactly the same hardwrae with exactly the same setup then no game will be 100% fair.



but keep preaching your "this is a cheat". bet ur one of the ppl who thinks "ex_interp" is a cheat too. sad..

[Noleafclover199]

azz0r wrote..

new 36mb patch tonight, confirmed.

that is just big enough for a new map eh?

[Stagger Lee]

Pharlap wrote..

its called having the upper hand :)

just like having better fps, a better monitor, better mouse, better ping, etc, all advantages in their own right. unless were all playing on exactly the same hardwrae with exactly the same setup then no game will be 100% fair.



but keep preaching your "this is a cheat". bet ur one of the ppl who thinks "ex_interp" is a cheat too. sad..

What a load of crap designed to merely attempt to rationalize cheating.

Better monitors, video cards, etc is not the same as tweaking the game itself to do things that the programmers chose to not implement by default settings. I have no idea what ex_terp is either but I'm sure it's something that changes how Counter-Strike was meant to do for everybody. But then, maybe you need these things just to keep from being owned.

Personally, I run default everything including gun models. I could change stuff but I see no need to and I like leaving a server in the number one slot knowing I had no "edge" over the opponants.

Hope to see you in a server someday.

Making sure you can hear if a errant shot through a wall hits someone? Geez. How lame can you get?

[bullet_head]

azz0r wrote..

new 36mb patch tonight, confirmed.

Actually cliffe said that was bogus.

Stagger Lee wrote..

How lame can you get?

They can get pretty lame.

[Pharlap]

well its up to valve to lock down the game. customising it is just inviting for someone to exploit it :)

[-:Nighthawk:-]

I think these comments are about Rival's playbook, not about whether boosting your sounds (or using A3D for that matter... I've heard that makes pretty large differences in how far you hear things, but it could easily be a rumor) is a cheat or not.



So yeah, looks like gotfrag decided to save a lot of clans a lot of time, and analyzed the strats for them. Kind of like a coach would do for a team, except it's more like a coach doing it against a team, in the hopes of making them easier to take down in the future. Not saying that this was ChrisB's intent, and anyone could have studied Rival for themselves, but how many would have? Just a thought, and interesting nonetheless.

[Dragonjojo]

-:Nighthawk:- wrote..

I think these comments are about Rival's playbook, not about whether boosting your sounds (or using A3D for that matter... I've heard that makes pretty large differences in how far you hear things, but it could easily be a rumor) is a cheat or not.



So yeah, looks like gotfrag decided to save a lot of clans a lot of time, and analyzed the strats for them. Kind of like a coach would do for a team, except it's more like a coach doing it against a team, in the hopes of making them easier to take down in the future. Not saying that this was ChrisB's intent, and anyone could have studied Rival for themselves, but how many would have? Just a thought, and interesting nonetheless.

the way he started the article seems like he's evaluated other clans 'playbook' strats. I'm not really sure though if that is the case and just this one seems to be getting more attention or what. But if this was a one time only thing then i'm skeptical, if not well then it's not, but still you did mention an interesting point.

One thing though, were these strats before the CAL changes to round time and stuff? If so i wonder how much it changes things like some of their boosts and what not.

[MorgaN6]

Pharlap wrote..

well its up to valve to lock down the game. customising it is just inviting for someone to exploit it :)

Wow, thats gotta be the biggest load of self-indulgent, egotistical nonsense ever.

bullet_head wrote..

Actually cliffe said that was bogus.

gg to you. http://www.csnation.net/comments.php?id=7479

[Stagger Lee]

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-:Nighthawk:- wrote..

I think these comments are about Rival's playbook, not about whether boosting your sounds (or using A3D for that matter... I've heard that makes pretty large differences in how far you hear things, but it could easily be a rumor) is a cheat or not.

Actually, it fits right in. The grenade toss that Rival does in the mentioned strat evidently takes advantage of a sound glitch in the map making the nade silent while making the sound of the "victim" heard. When I started playing in leagues, we played fair, we didn't look for or use any glitches and try to undermine the game. You know what? It was fun back then for the winners as well as the losers. Now, it's all about winning at any cost to the point that "vent" is now used instead of the in-game communication just so the dead can talk to the living. League play sucks now...all of them. It's now about who has the edge...not in true talent...but in knowing exploits and work-arounds of the games default settings.

Pharlap is just one of a multitude of people (including Rival and probably many other "CS gods" out there) who just HAVE to feel they are one up on the opponants when true skill is what the leagues were intended to bring out.....not map exploitation.

[entRo]

Pharlap wrote..

yeah thats a cool tactic. i use really really loud custom bullet_hit.wav sounds so its even easier to hear if u hit ppl behind walls/boxes

You also made a wallhack.

[bullet_head]

MorgaN6 wrote..

gg to you. http://www.csnation.net/comments.php?id=7479

Jee Jee, HL2Fallout reported they got an email from cliffe saying it was bogus.

[Pharlap]

MorgaN6 wrote..

Wow, thats gotta be the biggest load of self-indulgent, egotistical nonsense ever.

that may be be the biggest load of self-indulgent, egotistical nonsense ever, but it works :) and so few people exploit this that its not really defined as a cheat, yet.



so would you consider using two monitors to play CS a cheat also? one monitor is normal view, the 2nd has the centre of the screen zoomed in, so u can aim at far away targets more accurately.

entRo wrote..

You also made a wallhack.

shush you. whose gonna remember?



now shoo, outta ma restaurant.