Processor Poll

[JRules]

Mad Dog McKill wrote..

and remember this - intel has got this new latest pin arrangement with which there are intel CPUs with new kinds of pins. These pins are very weak and break after a number of installations and reinstallations (if thats how you call it) of proccessors into your motherboard...

if you remove your processor that much your gonna hurt it anyway. The only reason to remove it is to upgrade and in that case your putting a new one in anyway.

[chnike112]

My friend has a phoenix processor. 75mHz it is the 0wnage w00t fantastic.

[Kill Yourself]

Shadow wrote..

Well, it's easier, if that's what you mean, but the easiest and best looking has to be Mac OSX. Now if I could actually install a useful program on a Mac.

Was a joke but the trick was on you my friend.

[SALAMIjedi]

lol ricochet...



i used to have an AMD K6 on a Compaq... sucked soo much. now i have a P3 1Ghz.... woot so slow



LOL a pheonix processor LOL!!!

[NeoBender]

Im can;t wait for my AMD Athlon 64bit 3200.



I have used both AMD processors and Intel. My first AMD was an athlon 2000 (1.3ghz i beileve) It ran great, then my brother gave me his intel that he got from his collage for 50 bucks. And it was a P4 2.66ghz. Now the P4 ran hella fast with playing games but seeing the price for a P4. The AMD is a way better buy because of their price and the prformance you get out them.

[Linux]

I still love my Linux :) I run Linux 24/7, don't touch windows unless I have to :-P Been a Linux user for a long time. I just use WINE and then I compile Windows Programs from a Windows computer, and then covert them over to Linux, and I like Linux because when windows is running uses more of the CPU speed than need, so my AMD chips when Linux is running on them it doesn't get it speed sucked up with useless crap with Windows :) BUt this about CPU, so I just saying Linux is a better operating system for servers because long time uptime, I been running a linux box for the past 8 months and hasn't rebooted and its a 800MHZ AMD CPU :) So I think AMD wins longest support for a processor, because I did it with a 1.8Ghz CPU Intel (Couldn't find any 800Mhz chips lol, and didn't want to spend the money on it anyway :-P) And did hte samething, and the Intel didn't last as long, heated up and cooled heated and then shut down after about 3 months, but I think AMD is great for server work, but if you want uber hardcore power and don't have the money for a 64 bit AMD, then go with a nice 2.8Ghz or higher Intel. Another thing with Intel, there middle chips that were the Prescott is your an Overclocker, and want a chip that is already running hot and easy to control its heat and still be able to overclock without problems, I suggest check out the Prescott chips. I love my 2.8GHz Prescott, runs great. But Power to AMD and Linux, Linux supports full 64 bit MUHAHAHA, OWNZ0R WINDOWS!!!



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Mad Dog McKill wrote..

AMD! Why? We need to support the smaller companies. If we don't, they will dissapear and there won't be anyone to challenge the big bad marketig monstas...



AMD - cheaper, cooler (at least cooler than Presscotties) and shinier :)

no wait.. you can also cook an egg on an AMD proccessor



and remember this - intel has got this new latest pin arrangement with which there are intel CPUs with new kinds of pins. These pins are very weak and break after a number of installations and reinstallations (if thats how you call it) of proccessors into your motherboard...

OK, a Prescott chip runs hotter than a AMD, if you have a Prescott, I suggest you check out the hotness on it, I got mine at about 122-145(when OCed), but you need a nice 40+ dollar load of hell CPU fan to cool the baby when OCed, or water cooling. I been looking into water cool, but too expensive. An egg can be fried on both AMD cpus and Intel's Prescotts, because hte Prescotts were the first attempt to get more Power, on a small CPU, but the smaller it gets, the hotter :-P So good luck lol

[-:Nighthawk:-]

I've always run AMD processors myself, simply due to the price difference for the upper-level (but not top of the line) processors. However, I do wish most AMD systems wouldn't be so annoyingly picky about the RAM you use. Intel systems seem to fare better in those regards.



Anyway, at the moment, the Athlon 64 3400+ remains the fastest CPU for gaming (aside from overclocking), but it's a spendy processor. I'm interested to see what the future will look like with dual-core processors and all that business.



On the question of the P4 3.0 GHz question, in most cases you're going to be looking at a Athlon XP 2800+ as being comparable in performance, but it's a rough estimate, and depends on what test you're throwing at it. Pretty soon I'm guessing neither Intel nor AMD are going to advertise the GHz of their processors directly, but stick with model numbers, as the complexity of the processor is starting to affect performance more than sheer clock speed does.

[Linux]

hrmmm, yes its kidda like the AMD 64 bit processors, they have a core bus speed of 1600Mhz, which is sweet, and they use the model number, but on sites like www.newegg.com they aleast tell you the speed freq then run at, such as an example a 3400+ AMD 64 bit runs at 2.20Ghz, which so far is the top speed for AMD I think, correct me if I wrong. But yeah I like the Ghz, more fun to read More power to AMD, I say shut down Intel and let AMD run the world, and shut down Microsoft and let Linux run the world also, AMD and Linux = Most powerful combination MUHAHAHAHA.

[Pharlap]

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Linux wrote..

Too bad the 3400+ don't really mean 3.4Ghz that would be pretty cool lol.

there you go again! grr! stop gigahertzing everything arr!

theres a 100mhz DSP that can run 10 times faster than any intel/amd chip.

HankPym wrote..

In what way is this poll harmful?

its not harmful :) i just like to think outside the box.

Linux wrote..

have 4 AMD Servers, 7 Intel Gaming Computer, 2 Intel xeon servers..

..ANd a couple AMD gaming ones..

..my Laptop coming 64 Bit baby.

isnt one computer enough? you need 15?!

-:Nighthawk:- wrote..

I do wish most AMD systems wouldn't be so annoyingly picky about the RAM you use. Intel systems seem to fare better in those regards.



Pretty soon I'm guessing neither Intel nor AMD are going to advertise the GHz of their processors directly, but stick with model numbers, as the complexity of the processor is starting to affect performance more than sheer clock speed does.

about your ram comment. would seem true since intel are the main designers for core architecture like memory buses, AGP, inter-bus protocols, and the like. so they have first hand knowledge, which translates into more stable systems. of course its up to the motherboard manufacturer how to implement this in hardware



modern CPUs divide the internal clockspeed up anyways, so all this 3ghz crap youre seeing in big letters on their advertisements is not entirely accurate. its accurate for legal reasons ofcourse. but the CPU divides the clock into a more manageable speed. 3ghz is a really high frequency thats hard to handle especially in small circuits. why make life complicated.

SubNeoN wrote..

did you know an 84Ghz 256/128 bit system exists by Intel? no? that's right, i think they put something like 12 CPU's in it

and IBM have made a single transistor that can switch at almost 200GHz. so what? if u cant implement it, then theres not much use is there.

[Linux]

Nope, I like hosting and running computers... Also my extra computers are used at LAN that I host and play at.... I rent them out also, thanks, for saying :) And I don't give a shit about DSP, its not what were talking about, and this ins't spose to be, lets flame about other peoples thing... I say just going to say I like AMD more over intel, thankz... O yeah and hte 84Ghz system, thats called cluster a computers. I can get up to 35+Ghz out of my 15 computers cluster together, its not hard.... So that really doesn't do much, but cluster isn't too effecent in that all computer have to install and run the samething, and its a pain to setup and maintain :)

[Pharlap]

Linux wrote..

And I don't give a shit about DSP, its not what were talking about,



84Ghz system, thats called cluster a computers. I can get up to 35+Ghz out of my 15 computers cluster together, its not hard...

you may not be hard. but i think clustering is measured in processing power rather than clockspeed.



i mentioned DSPs as an example. not everything is a flame. its supposed to illustrate that ghz means nothing in terms of real world performance. do u even know what a DSP s mr 16yr old?

[-:Nighthawk:-]

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Linux... have you ever clustered all your computers together like that? What app did you run that supported the NoW setup? For reference, SETI@home does not count. :P Moving on...



Digital Sound Processors are highly specific circuitry and tend to be massively parallel in design. The end result is that, while the rated GigaFLOPS ("billion floating-point operations per second" for the non-techies among us) for a DSP may be much higher than for a given CPU, it's an apples to oranges comparison.



It's like trying to compare RISC to CISC... sure, one may do more operations for second, but none of those operations are as complex as the other. Sure, you can get more FLOPS from the DSP, but then again, you can get far more FLOPS from your GPU than you can from a CPU. Doesn't mean that your GPU is going to handle the varied tasks that your CPU needs to be able to complete.



So yeah, I agree that GHz rating isn't everything, but talking about DSP's and making age insults is not the way to make that point. :)

[HankPym]

-:Nighthawk:- wrote..

For reference, SETI@home does not count. :P Moving on...

I don't pretend to know much/anything about Linux or processors, but I do know that SETI@Home owns.

[[CyW]-=BigBear=-]

It's probably 50-50, the poll results kindof proves that.. Both Intel and AMD are just as good nowadays.. It's just funny to see that more AMD users seem to post comments, dunno why that is..



P.s. I have an Intel P4 3Ghz (Prescott)