CS 1.5 for Steam

[|azure|]

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Thortok2000 wrote..

I just figure that the people still playing 1.5 have a total lack of adaptability. Of course, that's true of most CS players. I have yet to find a local server that doesn't ban the shield; a lot ban autosnipers too (excepting those that would but don't know how). A lot of them are banning autobuy, a feature I find useful, because of an exploit that allows you to buy banned weapons through autobuy. I can't even play on a server without autobuy because I removed my other buy scripts to free up my keys for other binds.

The shield is still buggy and causes crashes when it is enabled along with certain plugins. Plus, I don't care what anyone says... it looks completely retarded to see someone running all over the place with a shield.



As for people complaining about 1.5 - I think people are tired of seeing the community divided up between 4 or more versions of CS. It does seem pretty lame that anyone would cling to the older versions though...

[mikestrike]

[Trullcat]

entRo wrote..

Why the fuck are all of you whining that people want to play 1.5?! Is it going to hurt your game? NO!



This is seriously one of the most childish things I've seen on csnation. Personally, I'll keep my 1.6. 1.3 and 1.5 were fun, but when I go back and play them, they're just not what they were before. Plus, CAL uses 1.6 so that's what I'll stick with. But do I care if someone wants to play 1.5? No, and why should I? Why do you all want to "let 1.5 die" so damn badly? Is it haunting your dreams and making you drool all over your Barney bibs?



Shut the fuck up you ridiculous idiots.

I agree completely. Let people play 1.5, jesus people, youre acting like theyre offending you personally by wanting to play a video game.

[Deletable_Man]

http://steampowered.com/status/game_stats.html



Geez, CAL should watch out. 1.5 is taking back all their players just like 1.3 did! onos~!

[Thortok2000]

Yeah there's bugs with the shield, I know, but they're few, and I haven't experienced any for a long time (although I haven't been playing with or against shielders for a long time, either). What mods have bugs with the shield? WC3? Some servers I play on have no mods other than statsme and they still ban it.



I just find it annoying when autobuy is banned. I don't mind playing on a server that restricts certain weapons, and I'm not trying to get around that with autobuy, I just like it because it's like a 1-button buy script for any and all situations.



I also find it somewhat laughable when the newbies ban the autosnipers but not the awp. The CT autosniper isn't even that bad if you'd give it a try, it's still sucky enough that the awp is better. The T autosniper can still be gotten around, especially if you do that annoying two-step strafe-back-and-forth while still getting perfect accuracy.

[|azure|]

With amx stats modules enabled the shield will crash a server every few hours. Plus, the risk of it giving our server problems just isn't worth enabling it. Every patch seems to introduce a new shield problem. Valve should really just give in on this one. The majority of changes made to the game have been accepted. However, a large majority still hates the shield.



And yes, restricting weapons will disable autobuy and rebuy on a server. Nothing can be done about that. I never even bothered to try either myself. Buy binds are so easy to set up and use. I just use the arrow keys . Hell you can even set one key up to buy either T or CT version of weapon depending what team you are on.



I would give up on the autobuy if I were you. Gonna be hard to find a server that doesn't restrict something. (unless Valve gives up on the shield) A lot of servers also run plugins that limit number of awps per team. This will disable autobuy as well.

Deletable_Man wrote..

http://steampowered.com/status/game_stats.html

Those stats don't mean anything to 1.5. They only track steam servers. There are still a ton of WON 1.5 servers out there. I have a friend that runs a 22 man 1.5 and it is full 24/7.

I personally support getting rid of it though... too many versions.

[HankPym]

|azure| wrote..

Those stats don't mean anything to 1.5. They only track steam servers.

Um, perhaps you should check the topic that you're commenting under.



Hint: it's called CS 1.5 for Steam.

[BoNeLeSS]

yawn

[|azure|]

HankPym wrote..

Um, perhaps you should check the topic that you're commenting under.



Hint: it's called CS 1.5 for Steam.

Yes that is true, but it seemed to me like the post was sarcasm. As if to point out that not many people play 1.5.

A hella lot of people still play 1.5. Not the 20 or so people who were playing through Steam.



Hint: you are stupid

Geez, CAL should watch out. 1.5 is taking back all their players just like 1.3 did! onos~!

Read that sentence and explain to me what point he was trying to make? yea... thats what I thought...

[JackieChad]

Deletable_Man wrote..

http://steampowered.com/status/game_stats.html



Geez, CAL should watch out. 1.5 is taking back all their players just like 1.3 did! onos~!

Interesting link.



I would LOVE if they would query their WON server and insert a line on that list showing people and servers playing 1.5 in native format. I suspect that it would NOT be a shabby number, since I run a Serverspy Top 50 server in native 1.5 and I have NO SHORTAGE of unique players.



JackieChad

[BrodieMan!!!]

[Thortok2000]

|azure| wrote..

And yes, restricting weapons will disable autobuy and rebuy on a server. Nothing can be done about that. I never even bothered to try either myself. Buy binds are so easy to set up and use. I just use the arrow keys . Hell you can even set one key up to buy either T or CT version of weapon depending what team you are on.

I had buy binds before. From what it sounds like, you bind a gun to a key. That's useful if you wanna fill up your keyboard with guns, or you only use the same guns over and over.



Buy /scripts/, however, will buy gun, ammo, pistol, ammo, armor, nades.



Autobuy, you can put in the guns in the order you like them, and it will buy the one nearest the top of the list that you can pay for, unless the gun you're holding is higher on the list.



With autobuy, if I'm holding a CT autosniper, I won't spend my money on any weapon other than an M4. If I'm holding a g3sg1, I won't spend my money on any other primary weapon, even when I'm CT. It detects the gun you have and will not buy any other gun listed.



If it were a buy script instead, it would attempt to buy all the guns in the order listed, whether I had a better gun or not. I'd be wasting my money and throwing guns on the ground.



Also, guns I pick up. M4 is above awp on my list, however AWP is above the famas. If I had an awp in my hands, but not enough money for an M4, I would still not buy the famas. Using the script, I'd never buy an awp, since M4 is cheaper and higher on the list, but if I had it in my hands, I wouldn't waste money on guns I like less.



These kinds of features aren't available with a single button press in any other form but autobuy.



And you're wrong. Disabling the shield or whatever can still occur without disabling autobuy too; however the smart server admin will disable autobuy since it can be exploited to get the otherwise disabled gun.



Something needs to be worked between the disable function and autobuy so that autobuy won't do that.

[|azure|]

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Thortok2000 wrote..

And you're wrong. Disabling the shield or whatever can still occur without disabling autobuy too; however the smart server admin will disable autobuy since it can be exploited to get the otherwise disabled gun.



Something needs to be worked between the disable function and autobuy so that autobuy won't do that.

well I don't know about adminmod, but the plugin to restrict weapons with amx and amxx does shut off autobuy. I would need to edit the plugin and recompilie it to turn on autobuy. However, that wouldn't make any sense, since people would still be able to buy the shield. Basically, Valve needs to fix the game so that autobuy doesn't get around weapon restrictions.



as for my buy binds... I have only the arrow keys and the home, end and page down keys. I don't see what you would want to use those keys for otherwise anyway. If you set them up for use while you are actually playing, that means you have to take your hand off the mouse or the movement keys to use them. (assuming you use wasd for movement). That is a good way to get dead. :) I have all my weapon, reload etc. keys around my wasd, so that I never have to move my hand away.



For instance.. my left arrow key is set up as "lightrifle". It buys an ak or m4 plus two clips, depending on the team I am on. Then I just hit the end key which buys vest and helmet depending on if I have enough money. If I only have enough for vest, it just gets the vest. Right arrow key is set up for aug or sig, and so on.. I really see no disadvantage with buy binds.



However, I do understand your frustration in not being able to use a feature you have grown accustomed to. I am just saying, it makes more sense to use buy binds. This way, you are not limited to certain servers.

Who knows? Maybe Valve will get around to looking at this?

[entRo]

|azure| wrote..

well I don't know about adminmod, but the plugin to restrict weapons with amx and amxx does shut off autobuy. I would need to edit the plugin and recompilie it to turn on autobuy. However, that wouldn't make any sense, since people would still be able to buy the shield. Basically, Valve needs to fix the game so that autobuy doesn't get around weapon restrictions.

Or Valve should make it so we don't need all these stupid mods on our servers. Atleast AMX has a use but StatsMe and Psychostats have got to go. I'm sure it'll dissapoint all those people that try so hard to be in top15, for what I don't know.



If not being able to use autobuy is that big of a deal to you, just allow the shield. The shield user is at the most disadvantage, and probably wont buy it again once he remembers how faulty it is.

[GhettoHistorian]

if theyre bring back 1.5 then what the fuck's the point of 1.6?



HLGuard sucks.



If 1.5 on steam runs on source, what's the point of cs:s? And if 1.5 doesn't run on source, well that's just a waste now isn't it?