CZ Deleted Scenes Update

[chousin]

are u releasing the new deleted scenes maps for us to download ??? some of us don't have steam

[FLeK0]

it's a 0.5mb download for some of you.

[DaRk-AnGeL]

-:Nighthawk:- wrote..

not all of the ideas that different developers came up with for CS:CZ were good ones, or were ones that fit into VALVe's perspective on what CZ should become.

*Throw a molotov unceremoniously at nighthawk

[Phalck]

Wow. I don't blame cliffe for not reading these comments anymore after this flame.



To bad people can't appreciate the fact that there is actually people out there that work very very hard for you to have a good time. Remember that it's a consumers world. Exercise your power by not buying the product instead of flaming everyone that do like it.



Yes I swallowed the infamous flame bait! I fell for it! I actually answered a flame post instead of ignoring it =]

[Softy's 24/7 Fraggin]

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speaking of things CZ related..

..any word on when/how the CS/CZ communities will be reunited?



posting from work does not make mOndAy go away any faster.

[HankPym]

-:Nighthawk:- wrote..

The point is, not all of the ideas that different developers came up with for CS:CZ were good ones, or were ones that fit into VALVe's perspective on what CZ should become.

I was originally looking forward to a CS experience similar to Opposing Force (naturally I was happiest when Gearbox was the developer), but recently I've realized that you just couldn't make a good CS game with the standard FPS formula.



In a CS game I don't want to be infiltrating a facility by myself, surrounded by hordes of enemies; I want to have intelligent teammates who back me up and give me the sense of being on a professional team. Likewise with the bosses who don't make any sense.



The trouble is, that's what single-player FPS games are. It almost seems like all the various developers were stuck in this mindset, and Valve was wise enough to realize that it wasn't working and pulled the plug.

[ALT+F4]

"The trouble is, that's what single-player FPS games are."



Hardly. Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon managed to get it right, with intelligent AI teammates and no frickin' bosses.



But, yes, even Far Cry, which started out so beautifully and with so much promise, descended into mindless biomechanical mutant idiocy.



Don't tell me that I don't appreciate the hard work that goes into making these games -- I do. But I also have both objective and subjective opinions as to how effective and successful those efforts are in terms of what I enjoy and what else is available in the genre. CZ Deleted Scenes were miserable in almost every way imaginable.



And yes, Mr. Ant Man, I have since deleted them.

[HankPym]

ALT+F4 wrote..

Don't tell me that I don't appreciate the hard work that goes into making these games -- I do. But I also have both objective and subjective opinions as to how effective and successful those efforts are in terms of what I enjoy and what else is available in the genre. CZ Deleted Scenes were miserable in almost every way imaginable.

Well I hope I didn't tell you that. I sure didn't mean to. Anyways I agree with you, I've only played through the first couple Deleted Scenes, and they're not very good. That's why Valve scrapped them. As an added bonus so we can see what the game could have been, I think they're rather nifty. I'm just glad they're not the real CZ.

[SALAMIjedi]

Rainbow 6 and Ghost Recon were tactical shooters. not FPS's



actually i expected what is now the Deleted scenes to be a sort of over the NET co-op missions. Like opposing force with a buddy. think of it like the Legend Of Zelda:The Four Swords. like one person plays covering fire and the other rushes in. one person snipes and the other person crawls through a duct



what would be better, if it was like splinter cell:PT except with guns and hostage rescue and other crap

[azz0r]

Is anyone else getting a floatly lag like feel while playing cz?



Its not like game lag but more system lag, but my system is extremely ample, I cant understand why Im getting it :S



As for the extras, the post some problems. Essentially it would mean everyone would have to buy a gas mask so they couldnt get gassed.



problems; some char models have gas masks on, do they buy one? how do you diffrenciate sufficiently between gas and smoke grenades without having a neon gas cloud?



Molotov wouldnt be a problem thought, Id like to see them implimented as they dont differ from HE that much really.

[ALT+F4]

"Well I hope I didn't tell you that. I sure didn't mean to."



No, Hank, it was Phalck that done said that.



"Rainbow 6 and Ghost Recon were tactical shooters. not FPS's"



Semantics. Tactical shooters played from the First Person Perspective are still First Person Shooters.

[Pharlap]

ALT+F4 wrote..

Semantics. Tactical shooters played from the First Person Perspective are still First Person Shooters.

werd of teh day: semantiks

[Mr. T]

I like insane bosses. I wish more games had Hitler in a robot suit with 4 miniguns as a boss

[Pharlap]

Mr. T wrote..

I like insane bosses. I wish more games had Hitler in a robot suit with 4 miniguns as a boss

wolf3d had something like that.



btw dont hate hitler, he was a great man :)

[Mr. T]

You get a prize for guessing what game I was referencing.