TMP and MAC-10 Feedback

[Mr. T]

they both need to be more accurate (the mac-10 needs to more only a touch more accurate, its already an hs machine...)

[bullet_head]

dforsb wrote..

GIVE CREDIT TO THE MAN WHO TOLD YOU THIS. This is the second time I suggest a news item that comes on the front page without getting credit.

Please read the comments rules

demand credit for a news item that you submitted. you probably weren't the only one, ace.

[xlokix]

i don't think anyone will use them still

[Relica Religia]

Both weapons' ROF should be heightened, and accuracy improved.

[Roady]

Boomstick wrote..

We need a total rehaul of the guns that no one uses (e.g. The Para/M249, TMP and the other sub-machine guns)

The para definitely needs to be improved. Its price is right, buts its ROF and accuracy are woeful =[

The UMP could do with a bit of a tweak too while they're at it ;]

[DchozN]

i don't think anyone will use them still

[WolfHusky]

Well, Hmm, ROF is Fast IMO. Just needs more damage, 3 TMP hs and he isn't dead?

[DaanO]

I usually pass on the forum news (being a moderator on cs.net), and Rizzuh thanked me for it and it's fine with me this way

[m4yco]

i am black.

[Jaxon]

TMP has enough damage and accuracy, but the recoil is a bit off for such a little gun. I'd say an extended clip would be nice.

[Pharlap]

oh ffs, like someone else said, stop improving the guns and forcing us to use them.

the tmp and mac10 are fine, and they are in the game for a reason - to have a bit of fun.

just because a bunch of people who started playing cs a year or less ago cant manage to kill anyone with them doesnt mean they should be imprved "for the benefit of the community".

why not remove crappy maps (iceworld, dust)and amx mods "for the benefit of the community" instead?

[Boomstick]

Pharlap wrote..

oh ffs, like someone else said, stop improving the guns and forcing us to use them.

the tmp and mac10 are fine, and they are in the game for a reason - to have a bit of fun.

just because a bunch of people who started playing cs a year or less ago cant manage to kill anyone with them doesnt mean they should be imprved "for the benefit of the community".

why not remove crappy maps (iceworld, dust)and amx mods "for the benefit of the community" instead?

I was going to write a long explanation detailing how wrong your opinion is, and how pointless it is to have all these guns in CS when people only use the M4, AK, AWP, and MP5 and not much else. Then I realized that trying to explain this all, no matter how well reasoned, would probably achieve nothing.

[dforsb]

[Def1ance]

Mac10 = Stay the same

TMP = tad stronger, match Mac10 in terms of dmg per bullet, other than that, dont' touch anything. (Regarding these two)

[GonePostal]

They should be improved, but only relative to the other weapons. Meaning the current weapon system focuses way too much on bread and butter guns such as the m4a1 and ak. Should these the most balanced guns? Yes. Should they be popular? Yes. Should they be better than a more specialized gun being used in its element? No. Infact, the most popular gun in CS SHOULD be the MP5 as it used to be. Basically improve the TMP and MAC so that they meet the purpose they were designed for. The TMP is designed to be a light, easy to handle and control, rapid fire, low damage machine pistol. This should be devastating at close range, but extremely inaccurate. However, the low muzzle velocity and uncumbersome design make the spray pattern much tighter, and more accurate while moving than larger more powerful weapons. The MAC should add to this the negative effects higher muzzle velocity which would make the damage go up, and the accuracy and control go down. This is how every gun should be designed in CS, with purpose in mind, not price.