Aztec optimization

[CSN NewsBot]

I've been asked by a number of players from the clan scene regarding the effect of weather and ambient effects on match play. Specifically, the slow downs in matches when smoke is used and a demo is recording. I've been told this can often reduce fps dramatically and cause bias towards players in certain positions on the map where the fps is lighter. Apparently, this causes some players to lose reaction time and causes problems in matches.



I have decided to look into this issue very soon (once my PC is setup again) with the intention of disabling the weather effects and "instant" sounds (such as thunder effects).



Hopefully these changes will benefit the esports community and help make matches on Aztec fairer.



Thanks to clan "sClam" for thier help in addressing this issue. If you have any thoughts/questions, please mail me

[FLeK0]

Valve should remove the whole particle system from cs, and give us back our great old framerate'.

[BeaMeR]

yeah id love fps over sounds no offense narby great idea but i prefer better ping and fps

[I2o[G]uE TacT-X]

i really hate that thunder sound that is triggered when people walk in certain areas or whatever causes it. it's more annoying than the cricket noise from de_aztec 1.5

[dennis3484]

Edited by [user="226780"] @ [time="1079624784"]

In my opinion you should remove the f*ck*ng noise of birds or whatever it is and the weather effects, because they're completely unsuitable and annoying in clan matches! :C

But the "instant sounds (such as thunder effects)" are so helpfully, mainly in 1on1 or 2on2 Matches/situations, you can't remove them!

Keep the new 1.6 design. It's much better to play!

[aznmaster567]

i like aztec don't change it plz i like it the way it is, i like the sound that you put in it it make it so grate

[--OpH--Jahwe]

I'd say that it is mostly the big place around the upper bomb spot.

Maybe you should decrease the maps size by 5% or so. I mean like shrinking a picture. It wont take a lot of changes for the gameplay and I think perhaps increas the speeds.

There would be plenty of space I gues even if you shrink the big place a little - if thats possible.



HF !



Und eigentlich solltest du ja mittlerweile auch Deutsch koennen oder?



PS: dennis with "cl_weather 0" and "stopsound" you can stop both problems you told us about. Bind Stopsound to a key thats easy to reach and press it, when you are in the area where the backgrounds been played.

[NBnate]

jahwe you are an idiot. first off you cant just shrinks an entire map without causing a gigantic number of problems, you would need to redo a lot of crates, make ceilings higher, and just a ton of other shit to make porportions look right, and even if it were to be done it would not run smoother because you would have the same number of brushes. also cl_weather 0 and stop sound do not stop the lag mentioned... and im not even positive cl_weather 0 is legal in leagues though i would guess it is. if you want my opinion, weather needs to be kept because i really do appriciate any atempt to make cs look nice, and sound is fairly unimportant because it doesnt add much to the map and people who play cs generally dont like them. I would suggest you make a version for leagues that runs smoother but its my guess that servers would start running that instead because every pub i moron thinks hes good enough for it to affect him.

[Max]

Narby, to satisfy both the league communities and the public online players instead of replacing de_aztec create a new de_aztec_league file so that the league players will only have to download the new version. If this is what you planned on doing anyways, then just ignore this comment. - fallen

[garry]

haha you faggots unbanned cya

[Nohbdy]

The lag is a problem, but stopsound and cl_weather 0 helps. I would leave the thunder triggers, just like the metal grate was left from the change to 1.6. A de_cpl_aztec would be a fine map that could be used for matches instead of the standard aztec. Counter-Strike is a realisitic game, so the attempt to include weather is an attempt to improve the realism of the game. Changing the bombsites to resemble the 1.5 bombsites could possibly clear up some of the lag caused by brushes. Just a few suggestions from an amature mapper...

[hiroya]

fix the box on the t side of the bridge(disappears sometimes if you're far away).

[--OpH--Jahwe]

Thanks for calling me an idiot. I was just guessing! I'm not a good "mapper" or "cs editor pro". But I'm not an idiot. I study physics at the university of goettingen which is one of the best in natural science in germany - even Einstein had been here some years. So calling me an idiot is just stupid. May be I'm not the most intelligent guy on earth, sure. How come you can tell I'm an idiot since we don't know each other?



And, if you would have read the text from dennis:



"In my opinion you should remove the f*ck*ng noise of birds or whatever it is and the weather effects, because they're completely unsuitable and annoying in clan matches! :C"



And my answer:



"dennis with "cl_weather 0" and "stopsound" you can stop both problems you told us about"



and then yours:



"cl_weather 0 and stop sound do not stop the lag mentioned"



I think I know who is the stupido! I never said that cl_weather would decrease lag. But I think it is way to much for you to UNDERSTAND a text when you read one.

CPL and all major eurpean legues allow to disable cl_weather. Stopsound is allowed at EAS ans EPS and even in CB EC, so I don't think it is a big thing!