CPL Bans Shield

[Nihil]

shield sucks, doesnt fit with cs' style, totally different.

am playing 1.5 anyways especially now that you can control any server (rules )

[jax0r]

0marTheZealot wrote..

the shield ruins the pace of CS, pub, scrim or league.

I agree. The shield is a downright pain in the arse. Sure, it was fun at the start, but during games now it just gets in the way and causes anger. I HATE n00bs who run down a hallway and just smother you with it. I mean sure...it may be a smart tactic....but........ITS CRAP :P

[FAF]

There has been a terrible attitude against the shield since the betas, and a lot of this malcontent is because people don't like change. A lot of players got very good at the game, and now that the shield has changed the pace of gameplay when it's used, they don't want to have to relearn tactics again, and so just shout it down as "crap". I accept that it is nowhere near as polished as the rest of the game, but at least Valve realised the fact that CS was getting stale, and tried to do something about it. It's well known that since cs1.0, there have been very few new maps that have been properly accepted, Dust2 is about the only one. So map additions wouldnt have saved CS. Let's put it this way, Valve approach you and say "we need something to keep CS fresh without altering the core of the game/physics etc" What would you suggest they added or changed? It's harder than you think to come up with a workable idea, and the shield is probably the best of the bunch. So I can wait until any issued are sorted, but the shout down the shield just because it's different is to condemn CS to an even earlier grave...



edited for typo's

[Pharlap]

OPIE wrote..

The shield is a SNIPER counter-measure.

why its only available to the CTs i will never know! Ts need it as much as CTs.

[0marTheZealot]

I don't think its changes that makes everyone hates the shield. So far, most people I've talked to love the new guns. It's that the shield ruins skill. So what if you can headshot a guy at 500 yards in .2 seconds. If he has a shield, it doesn't matter how good you, you won't kill him till HE MAKES THE FIRST MOVE. CS is very pre-empative. If you can kill a guy before he gets a shot off, you'd be consider to be very good. However, when it coems to the shield, it doesn't matter if you're ksharp, you won't kill him till he makes a move.



New map additions are great imo. Case in point. CAL had de_chateau part of the pre-season last season. I entered saying that I hate this map, but once I mapped it out and played on it, it was pretty sweet. I think the community needs a more open mind when it comes to certain things, but the shield deservedly is hated for the very reasons I put up there. I know CS isn't the epitome of realism, but seriously, how stupid is it when you can shoot thru 10 feet of solid concrete and kill someone, only to have a paper thin metal sheet reflect every single bullet. That doesn't even make sense. If something is believable, it doesn't matter if it's realistic. But for something like the shield to exist in CS is just absurd. It'd be fine if you could shoot the glass out or have an HP counter on the shield, but right now, the shield makes zero sense.

[GrimmyD]

so does shooting through 10 feet of concrete. not to mention firing that rifle standing up. the game isn't about realism. it's about play balance. the shield has its place, perhaps not in its current form though.

[0marTheZealot]

What I was trying to say was that if it seems believable, then it doesn't matter if it's realistic!

[Pharlap]

0marTheZealot wrote..

CAL had de_chateau part of the pre-season last season. I entered saying that I hate this map, but once I mapped it out and played on it, it was pretty sweet.

shame most CS players think in such a dickhead way.

[cboyce]

Actually I like it when someone comes at me with a shield. If you till they have to reload they're easy prey or if you can get behind em and confuse em. What more funny is one ct with a shield becomes and all points bulletin and eveyone attacks that ct. lol



Chuck

[x7-Superman!]

i miss 1.5

[[DXC]Dai]

yo rizzuh if u want ill make you a movie of me glitching

[0marTheZealot]

Minus the shield, 1.6 is the best update ever.

[OPIE]

Sigh, you people just dont try hard enough. Why do I even bother to post here, I am probally talking to a bunch of 12 or 14 year olds who just care about what they want and nothen else.



The shield when fixed completely will be great. It does change the pace of CS, for the better. CS was becomming boring, and actually losing players. When Steam and 1.6 came out, CS probally lost the most players it ever did. but it will gain back more then it lost. It allready is.



More and more people everyday are registering with steam and also not having problems with it. Steam is shaping up, and more CS servers are appearing. Remember a while back when CS lost the title to most widly played game to bf1942? Well its gaining it back. And the majority of the players are in 1.6



If the majority of the players are in 1.6 then that means they like it. If you dont like change in a game, then dont play the damn thing. All you people whine about is how you suck now because of the changes. Well you probally sucked in the last version as well, because if you cant adapt to new version...then you just suck as a gamer in whole.



The shield is very easily countered. Even 1v1 it is very easily countered. I wont waste my time explaining it to you because your not worth it. but I will fight for the shield because I think its great when not exploited.



Oh and did you hear of the recent fix for the auto snip? ITS DEAD ACCURATE! So all you CT's might want to invest in the shield not only to counter AWP, but the auto snip now too. I think the autosnip will be used alot now for its fast ROF for a sniper gun, and its power. 2-3 non head shots kill.



Yeah back to the shield. It adds so much more momentum to the game. No more rush/plant, rush/plant. Jeez CS is not that repetitive anymore, which is a good thing. It adds so many more new situations. And is a blast to use, or face in CS_maps. On DE_maps I hardly see it used anyways. Because it is not a good camping tool. And CT's gotta camp on DE_maps. Only usualy see it used to cut a certin spot off and try to split the T's in two. Usualy works, but again CT's still lose the majority of the time on DE_maps. At least on the servers I play at.



Bah, noone will listen anyways. The Cs community is too full of whiners who dont care about noone but them selves. Oh well shield is here to stay, and I am happy about that. Maybe all the whiners will eventualy leave and the CS community will be left with the mature kids...and it can start over again. Now that would be the day.

[0marTheZealot]

OPIE is a cal-o lifer!

[|5hadoW Hunte|2]

OPIE wrote..

Sigh, you people just dont try hard enough. Why do I even bother to post here, I am probally talking to a bunch of 12 or 14 year olds who just care about what they want and nothen else.



The shield when fixed completely will be great. It does change the pace of CS, for the better. CS was becomming boring, and actually losing players. When Steam and 1.6 came out, CS probally lost the most players it ever did. but it will gain back more then it lost. It allready is.



More and more people everyday are registering with steam and also not having problems with it. Steam is shaping up, and more CS servers are appearing. Remember a while back when CS lost the title to most widly played game to bf1942? Well its gaining it back. And the majority of the players are in 1.6



If the majority of the players are in 1.6 then that means they like it. If you dont like change in a game, then dont play the damn thing. All you people whine about is how you suck now because of the changes. Well you probally sucked in the last version as well, because if you cant adapt to new version...then you just suck as a gamer in whole.



The shield is very easily countered. Even 1v1 it is very easily countered. I wont waste my time explaining it to you because your not worth it. but I will fight for the shield because I think its great when not exploited.



Oh and did you hear of the recent fix for the auto snip? ITS DEAD ACCURATE! So all you CT's might want to invest in the shield not only to counter AWP, but the auto snip now too. I think the autosnip will be used alot now for its fast ROF for a sniper gun, and its power. 2-3 non head shots kill.



Yeah back to the shield. It adds so much more momentum to the game. No more rush/plant, rush/plant. Jeez CS is not that repetitive anymore, which is a good thing. It adds so many more new situations. And is a blast to use, or face in CS_maps. On DE_maps I hardly see it used anyways. Because it is not a good camping tool. And CT's gotta camp on DE_maps. Only usualy see it used to cut a certin spot off and try to split the T's in two. Usualy works, but again CT's still lose the majority of the time on DE_maps. At least on the servers I play at.



Bah, noone will listen anyways. The Cs community is too full of whiners who dont care about noone but them selves. Oh well shield is here to stay, and I am happy about that. Maybe all the whiners will eventualy leave and the CS community will be left with the mature kids...and it can start over again. Now that would be the day.

so much anger ;]