CPL Bans Shield

[Gpig]

Shield is still ridiculously glitchy. 2 days ago I was playing aistrip(shut up) and shot a guy that was crouching with his shield up right where his head should be behind the shield and got a headshot yet other times they have the shield lowered and I can't hit the head. I don't think it would be such a bad "presense" if it didn't cover the shins and feet like in Metal Gear Solid.

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lockhart wrote..

The +3 frags thing is still dumb because it really fucks with scores in scrims/matches... this is the kind of thing that a server variable would fix fine.

The majority of people playing are pubbing. It's intended for pubs. As for matches, you've already heard "score isn't everything" so shut up. There's no need for a variable because it really doesn't matter.

[bozer]

I'm still undecided if I'm for or against the shield, but I havent seen any bugs at all since the last update that was said to have fixed it.



rizzuh/pennies - the shipment has arrived! (pennies should know what I mean)

[GrimmyD]

i find it strange that the same people who think the shield is 'unrealistic' in that it blocks everything infront of you (just the front mind you, not the sides, and definitely not behind you), are the same people who think the awp is 'fine'. it's a high powered rifle. you shouldn't be running with it or firing with it while in any position other than prone. granted, having the shield available only to ct's can unbalance things (awp + shield to aztec bridge?). but removing it due to 'glitches' (which i'd rather see tested using locked variables, rather than take the word of a random user that tweaks their settings).



TLDR Version: in a game dominated by awp users, why not give the one thing that can stop them a chance? test it with locked variables, don't judge it on actions of pub players.

[Doodleman3]

Fixing the bugs and glitches is a given and Valve will fix them, it's a very different weapon so I'm not surprised these problems showed up.



If they would give the T's that Molotov Cocktail that was in the Gearbox version of CZ then the shield would be very balanced.

[[SXE]Sgt. Pepper]

DELETE THE SHIELD!

[NyaR]

GrimmyD wrote..

i find it strange that the same people who think the shield is 'unrealistic' in that it blocks everything infront of you (just the front mind you, not the sides, and definitely not behind you), are the same people who think the awp is 'fine'. it's a high powered rifle. you shouldn't be running with it or firing with it while in any position other than prone. granted, having the shield available only to ct's can unbalance things (awp + shield to aztec bridge?). but removing it due to 'glitches' (which i'd rather see tested using locked variables, rather than take the word of a random user that tweaks their settings).



TLDR Version: in a game dominated by awp users, why not give the one thing that can stop them a chance? test it with locked variables, don't judge it on actions of pub players.

dude, crawl out of your hole.



there is more to counter-strike than you percieve. get a thing called "skills" and you will notice how much your comments are infested with your own ignorance and stupidity.

[Spartibus]

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rizzuh wrote..

I don't think you're making it up, but is it really hard to document this on a web page with videos or other evidence? I don't play on a lot of shield heavy servers and I would like to be sure before I make any sweeping statements regarding the shield's bugs.

I don't have any sites, and I haven't made one because I don't know of any free sites that give the required bandwidth (haven't looked too hard though). But I could send you some videos over IRC if you like.



Your best bet is to just try it out with a friend, so there's no doubt in your mind :p. Go into a server (dedicated or listen, I don't think it really matters) and just test the hitboxes.

TLDR Version: in a game dominated by awp users, why not give the one thing that can stop them a chance? test it with locked variables, don't judge it on actions of pub players.

maybe the game is "dominated by awp users" in pubs, but that's certainly not the case in leagues. the awp isn't that great of a weapon, and it's certainly not good enough to give the shield a valid reason to exist.

[Shadow-Dragon]

GrimmyD wrote..

i find it strange that the same people who think the shield is 'unrealistic' in that it blocks everything infront of you (just the front mind you, not the sides, and definitely not behind you), are the same people who think the awp is 'fine'. it's a high powered rifle. you shouldn't be running with it or firing with it while in any position other than prone. granted, having the shield available only to ct's can unbalance things (awp + shield to aztec bridge?). but removing it due to 'glitches' (which i'd rather see tested using locked variables, rather than take the word of a random user that tweaks their settings).



TLDR Version: in a game dominated by awp users, why not give the one thing that can stop them a chance? test it with locked variables, don't judge it on actions of pub players.

Finally. Someone with a brain. You're probably the first to understand, THIS GAME IS UNREALISTIC!!! Some morons hate the shield, but think the AWP takes skill. Wow....... Sometimes I don't think common sense is so common :-\

[OPIE]

I dont think the problem with the shield is because its invincable, I love the shield, and dont take advantage of the exploits. In fact on my clans server we admin the shield very closely.



The shield is a great installment to CS, all the people who think it sucks because its invincable are mostly AWP whores who are mad they cant stop everyone with the little to nothen skilled gun.



I have no problem running on the side of someone and killing them while they are moving or not. Dunno what everyone is talking about. I have killed plenty of people sitting still from the side and shooting the...dunno who made that one up.



Hit boxes can be a bit off at times but its nothen to dramaticly change the gameplay.



Someone stated that running around the side you see sparks, well thats mainly because your running, and your accuracy is off when you run...so your bullets are hitting him and the shield so it appears as if your hitting a invisable wall when in fact your hitting the side of the shield and the player.



The shield is a SNIPER counter-measure. It eliminates camping to a certin extent if you think about it. But also requires new tactics if incountered by a shield user.



I think the shield is a excellent installment and when all the kinks and bugs are worked out. It will be more widely used and be one of the best things to hit CS.

[xlokix]

if a sniper could take out someone through the shield, then there would really be no point in the shield at all would there? its not a shield if bullets can go through. and now the awp, i cant imagine how LAME it would be if the awp was like the DoD snipers, the cs maps are in small territory, the awp needs a quick scope and high damage.



i dont know what your complaining about, i've been to many pubs and scrims and barely saw any shields, if so, only 1 person. i doubt the shield ban by the cpl will change anything anyway, except faster games.

[sherman761]

Yes, the shield is great against awp whores. Terrorist awp whores.

[GrimmyD]

sherman761 wrote..

Yes, the shield is great against awp whores. Terrorist awp whores.

that's the only problem i can see about the shield. a ct team of shield + rifles = majorly unfair.



granted, the terrorists get the galil which is far superior to the famas.



and to all you people who bitch about needing 'skillz'. shut up. it's a game. sure, some people might be better than others, but it's mainly luck. praising people who have 'skillz' in a computer game is nothing short of sad.



yet another TLDR Version: terrorists might be fucked if ct's get shield + rifles. solution: kill a ct, take his shield. (working methods: grenades + knife go through shield. flanking works as well.)

[Spartibus]

lol, it seems to me the only people who like the shield don't like the awp. Which also seems to me that if you don't like the awp you probably haven't been passed ogl or cal-o. Any of my arguements about CS involve league play only, as that's what I do, so most of the people here don't provide relevant rebuttles to me ;p

[0marTheZealot]

the shield ruins the pace of CS, pub, scrim or league.

[DchozN]

shields have feelings too.