hands-on: cs:cz

[marinecommando]

Paul Shuttle wrote..

Have to say I agree that this seems very similar to the Gearbox version (but could be wrong. Feel free to correct me), and that both the Gearbox and Ritual models would have been better than the 1.6 ones.



Still, at least it's fun now. Apparently. The preview was worth it, if only for the use of the word "dolt".

I liked the girth quote L:p

[ale_85]

Wow. That's all I can say. Before this preview, I had not read any CZ previews (almost anyway), but now, I am soooo going to get this game. It looks like that it just might be an excellent game Good Job all involved :)

[=StK=RECON]

XTRMNTR wrote..

Hey guys, how quickly you forget...



Gameplay > graphics



Would you play the game if it totally sucked and the Bot AI was dumb as hell? Even though the game looked nice?



I mean, it'd be nice if they at least had the new player models and more high poly weapon models... but ah well. You take what you can get right? Let's hope they made CS:CZ cheap then for making us wait this long.

yes thats correct also... but they TOOK OUR GAMEPLAY/ New Weaps ALSO ( with the exeption of 12 measly levels ) and replaced it with some silly MP where u have to kill dudes with 5-7s and huge snipers...

[azz0r]

The review had me convinced of buying it...but then again the review didnt mention old models or whether or not ragdoll physics was put in...



RizzuH!

[j\]

XTRMNTR wrote..

Hey guys, how quickly you forget...



Gameplay > graphics



Would you play the game if it totally sucked and the Bot AI was dumb as hell? Even though the game looked nice?



I mean, it'd be nice if they at least had the new player models and more high poly weapon models... but ah well. You take what you can get right? Let's hope they made CS:CZ cheap then for making us wait this long.

While I agree with your first comment regarding game play, let me say this:



ARE YOU STUPID?



It works like this: Valve spent a long time developing this, therefore, they spent more money on staff hours etc. So, in turn... you want the game to be... CHEAPER than originally planned? How does that work? You want Valve to lose MORE money over this?



Well, if that's the line of thought of most of the community, I'm not surprised Valve don't listen.

[Stiffer]

Wow when I was reading the review i was all exciting about it. But then I read these comments, and I'm thinking about how much it sucks that it doesnt include new weapons and models - those ritual models really looked great - . I know that people all got mad when they heard about the included LAW, but in SP it would be just fine, someone above already mentioned it gameplay > graphics. And come one those missions are actually a bit lame, I dont want to do a mission over and over again untill I finaly kill someone when he is blind. Same as trying to kill someone with the niche sniper rifle, I dont want to do that becuase it's boring. I will proberly buy it just to see how it is. Hope the ritual missions are cool.



And when are they gonna fix it that bullets go to a 30meter concrete wall.

[j\]

I'm definatley going to buy it. Looks like good clean fun. I've had thousands of hours of fun with CS, which is free... so I'm paying my dues and buying this.



I don't care about new models or guns. I just enjoy playing CS. And CS with a single player setup and bots that don't hack sound like a great thing to me.

[andyp]

What about the ragdoll effects? Are they in? It was one of the features I wanted most when condition zero was announced. Just imagine your enemy tumbling down the stairs in inferno after getting sprayed to death...

[narby]

Turtle rock



whoooOOOOOOooooooo

[Obsidan]

Crap in a box

[jeanjean]

XTRMNTR wrote..

Hey guys, how quickly you forget...



Gameplay > graphics



Would you play the game if it totally sucked and the Bot AI was dumb as hell? Even though the game looked nice?



I mean, it'd be nice if they at least had the new player models and more high poly weapon models... but ah well. You take what you can get right? Let's hope they made CS:CZ cheap then for making us wait this long.

i often wonder if comments of that kind aren't written by a VALVe employe



don't get me wrong but how could they improve cz gameplay if it's meant to be compatible w/ cs. they just had to lift the graphics



same goes for people that cleverly see the new version is uglier than previous one and shout "i'm loyal i'll buy it anyway"



is that what is commonly called "stupidity"?



yeah i think so

[exwhyze]

XTRMNTR wrote..

Hey guys, how quickly you forget...



Gameplay > graphics



Would you play the game if it totally sucked and the Bot AI was dumb as hell? Even though the game looked nice?



I mean, it'd be nice if they at least had the new player models and more high poly weapon models... but ah well. You take what you can get right? Let's hope they made CS:CZ cheap then for making us wait this long.

Since It's multiplayer compatible, and it's using the HL engine (presumably), why would the gameplay suck? I was buying it for the multiplayer because of the good graphics (don't like the original crap, want good stuff) and because of the new maps. Thats basically it.

[[SXE]Sgt. Pepper]

hmm cba with this, i was lookin foward to new guns and players, not the original cs models :/ theyre a joke valve, bunch of slackers

[keir]

better graphics, yet they still look crap :¬(

I'll probibly buy it like its been said loads of times, i cant under stand why they didn't use new models.

[j\]

Regardless of what Valve do, they get shit.



Why put effort into getting negative feedback when you can get the same response by doing nothing at all.