1.6 Update 7/15

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The shield totally unevens gameplay, and if it isnt removed and they do something INSANE like allow it in CAL or CPL matches, then the first round would always go To CT's.. (if they have 1000 start cash, I havent bothered to check) but still it Screws shit up...



Oh and, the G-Man Video for HL2 was released watched it like 2 days ago....



Oh and about restricting bvuy depending on what you have, its good! That way I dont accidentally lose cash with a gun I already own, and as for precious reloading, hit reload right before the end of a round and itll be automatically done at the start of the new round.



lol

[gemini]

rounds still start with 800 cash, you can't buy shield the first round. I agree that it would make it impossible for Ts to win the first round but its not so...



Ts can get a galil the second round even if they lose pistols, and used to have a huge advantage if they won the pistol-round: they get AK and it took the CTs another 2 extra round to get colt, so the shield is good for covering the overpowered mp5's of the CT team if they lose pistols. If CTs win the Ts can have some galils to fight off colts in the second round.



that probably didn't make a lot of sense, but anyhow... I think

[peagle]

Thortok2000 wrote..

Either get more grenades possible, or more damage. Something like 70 damage would be good for solitary grenades.

70? Are u nuts? Each team equips one each, and decimates the other side in a doomsday type scenario at the beginning of each round.



Nades aren't realistic in damage, but rightly so, they'd just be too unbalanced versus the rest of the weapons which all require some kind of keen aim. I would guess the same argument is why the LAW isn't going to be in multiplayer.

marc___1 wrote..

should be able to whack people with it if you come up behind them ~25 damage

Damn straight. Should be able to whip off the vent covers in cs-assault and smack people about with them too. Mmm HL2....

[L337Clorox]

I dunno if anyone has said this already but they made it so you cant buy a gun you are already holding NOT so you cant buy guns for teammates. They did it so you don't waste money accidentally buying the same gun again when you didn't need to, or even mean to. Lets say you have a Galil, and now you wanna buy an AK. You go to hit the "2" and accidentally hit "1". Instead of ending up with another galil which has no use to you, you end up not buying anything. Then you can buy your AK(or try to again).

[Phalck]

Noldster wrote..

yea MikeJ



Changed so you can't purchase a weapon that you're already holding



I guess valve never watches CAL-I demos? Its called "buying weapons for your teammates when they dont have money" gj valve

I dont know how you buy weapons for your teammates, but I usually drop my weapon for my teammate before I buy a new one ...

[a_d_a_v_e]

there is a bug with the shield and the C4, when you are terrorist holding a shield, when you select the C4 you can carry another weapon, so you have the shield, the gun, and a rifle for exemple :/ that makes you invincible ....

[Gameshot911]

naem wrote..

I fail to see how it gives you more freedom, as you can do all of that without scripts.

What in the holy fuck are you talking about? You just agreed with me.

[T|2i|34L]

As far as I know - reading the Steam Forums - they have fixed all shield exploits (i.e. shooting through, no fall damage after taking a shield hit, primary weapon for t w/bomb).



Personally the shield is cool, its not hard to get by if you have skill - shoot their feet if they're not crouched - it won't block that. Circle strafe them if they are alone. Strats are pretty simple to figure out so quitcher bitchin'!



Speakin of strat:



Galil just fookin pwns!

FAMAS - 3 round burst at a distance aimed at upper chest - HEADSHOT!

Shield - (CT) wait till the t's are reloading and cap 'em (T) circle strafe and aim for visible body parts



Personally I think these changes will eliminate some of the econ problems they have in CAL matches. Rounds will be more even now because of the weapon/shield changes. Now if only some more of the maps were as balanced....

[Mr. Poophead]

bulletproofmonkey wrote..

Problem is, i dont use scripts. No biggy anyway.

Then you're not the type of player that would buy his team guns or needs to buy guns real fast, right (no offense, I'm just sayin)? That's what I am trying to get at. People that NEED to buy guns for their teams or whatever should know enough about CS to write scripts to drop/buy. There has been a few times where I have accidentally bought 2 guns by pressing my script key twice because my hard drive will have to spin back up to load the graphic. It sucks more to accidentally waste $3500 than spend 5 minutes to write a script.

[Gameshot911]

WTF did they do to the gali it used to be AWSOME now its like blarg...ie NOT accurate....and the five-seven? damn that thing used to unload the whole clip in the CENTER OF THE CURSOR (go look in 1.5 im seorius full auto full accuracy)...blarg...

[superm0nk]

MikeJ wrote..

what about on pubs when you want to buy a gun for full ammo in a flash to avoid reload, that one extra keystroke could be one extra death.



It's not going to ruin clan play or make me go back to beta 9.2, but it is stupid.

What? Not being able to reload in time? Like what you said, it won't ruin clan play, but in a pub it might cost you an extra death. It's a pub, first off. If you die one more time, so what? If you have to take a split second to reload, so what? Why are you stressing out on something so small. If you can't be bothered with reloading, throw the damn gun down and buy a new one. That's two whole keystrokes. Two. Hit your "drop weapon" button and then your bind for "ak/m4." You probably play 24/7 fy_iceworld anyway so you don't have to buy guns.

[kerosine99]

i think its a good idea. no more wasted cash.



what they really need to fix, is the accuracies of the auto sniper rifles.

[MikeJ]

i'm not really stressing out over it i just think it's a stupid change that came out of fucking nowhere. Why are they all of a sudden appealing to people with buy scripts and slippery fingers? The true newbies buy via clicking with their mouse on the pretty VGUI menus, and the vets don't fuck up enough to warrant this change. It just seems to me like a nephew of a valve employee accidentally bought 2 guns ran out of money, died, and then complained to his uncle to change this "gay shit" or something.



It doesn't make any sense.

[RaptorRage]

Unfortunately the shield still has the blocking exploit, or at least has an enlarged or misaligned hitbox, as after the latest patch it still blocks from the front to a certain degree when undeployed.



Another exploit still present is being able to equip a primary weapon along with shield/pistol, if you are a T carrying the bomb on de_maps.

[Pharlap]

shame that the VIP can no longer pick up the shield, having VIP use shield made the AS maps a bit more balanced against the Ts.