anti-cheat vs OGC

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  • zimzap

    #106
    Well after just playing I say 25 get busted by CS gaurd, and 1 get stopped by the HL engine. Wow really good job there. Oh and I am not supporting valve with my money because I got the game from a friend. Just take a look at some of the great things they do. Man those auto snipers are great. Buying Mac10 bullets in 12s when the clip in 25 is another great "feature". This list goes on and on. And if I remember correctly, after people started using the builtin wall hack, it took valave about a month or two or more to fix it.

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    • jeffs bananas

      #107
      too bad linux players (under wine) get kicked :{

      some people said this release fixes it but ive tried 2 servers and it still kicks me. maybe they havent upgraded (?). dont really wanna keep trying because it says 'repeat offenders might be permanently banned from all secure servers'



      anyone know anything about this?

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      • rizzuh

        #108
        zimzap is just pissed off about CS 1.4. Yeah, I'm sure CSGuard catches more people. You know this because you play CS so often, even though you hate CS 1.4. This is a continual process of beating up on Valve, not a formal investigation.



        I care about zimzap's opinion like I care about ants eating a rotten apple. Be a critic all you want. The people who actually play the game are benefitting from the anti-cheat.

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        • MikeJ

          #109
          zimzap wrote..

          Well after just playing I say 25 get busted by CS gaurd, and 1 get stopped by the HL engine. Wow really good job there. Oh and I am not supporting valve with my money because I got the game from a friend. Just take a look at some of the great things they do. Man those auto snipers are great. Buying Mac10 bullets in 12s when the clip in 25 is another great "feature". This list goes on and on. And if I remember correctly, after people started using the builtin wall hack, it took valave about a month or two or more to fix it.
          CSG does not detect any hacks for CS 1.4...period. None, zero.



          HLG detected OGC 8.0 for about 1 day.



          The built in wallhack had a fix out within 2 days.



          If you go to ANY cheating forum you will see EVERYONE complaining about valves anti-cheat.



          If you hate CS so much, please do not play it. That is all. Go spread your stupidity on the SOF2 forums...i think OGC might work for that game

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          • zimzap

            #110
            Oh so CSG catchs no 1.4 hacks? Yea those bi-weekly updates do nothing. My point is a third-party program like CSG should not provide better protection then the built in one. Quite frankly I don't care about 1.4 its just valve's lazyness that pisses me off.

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            • MikeJ

              #111
              What lazyness?
              Whether or not you guys want to continue running third-party applications is

              up to you. We're working to prevent as many cheats as possible. This will

              be an on-going process.



              I'm not going to list the cheats that are/aren't detected by us. It will be

              changing almost daily, and that type of information would never be public.



              -Eric
              Daily updates = lazy?

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              • rizzuh

                #112
                To be fair, it'll never be daily updates.



                Zimzap: I believe most support for CSG has been unofficial, but I could be wrong. In either case, calling Valve's anti-cheat a failure is spreading, as slashdotters would say, FUD. Fear, uncertainity, and doubt will not get CS 1.3 jumping added to CS again.



                It's like a freaking witch hunt with some of you. It's impossible that Valve accomplishes anything, I guess. No wonder they are so successful: they fail at everything. :P

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                • MikeJ

                  #113
                  btw rizzuh why are you an ass to me on IRC but never on the comments ;\



                  (what did i do please i mean no hate)



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                  • jeffs bananas

                    #114
                    what about my question you all knowing g0ds

                    :P

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                    • Brutus

                      #115
                      jeffs bananas wrote..

                      what about my question you all knowing g0ds

                      :P
                      Make sure that you have port 27012 open. It needs that port open to download the module update to your server.

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                      • b.?

                        #116
                        You could, how do you say it, hack in Counter-Strike? OMG why didn't I ever hear about this? What did it like make you better or something!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!

                        That explains so much....



                        HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

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                        • Kayozz

                          #117
                          Drop Flat and Rot Back.

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                          • Shadows

                            #118
                            n1 Valve, really happy that the system is now active!



                            Great Stuff,



                            Now please remember to update it now and then (1-2 times per month would be nice).

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                            • LeRaldo

                              #119
                              Ahahaha im watching people get "disconnected" left and right. I go into a server and it just says "was disconnected from the server" or something like that, so i look up to the left of my screen and see the people leaving.. lol VALVe does own. now if they can keep it up to date like they say then that would be awsome

                              Added @ [time="1021543499"]

                              Come to think about it, I'm seeing people I thought were legit getting banned :-( it's suprising how many people actually do cheat..

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                              • Half-Pint

                                #120
                                It's my impression that the HL cheat block stops people at the door so to speak. So just how does anyone like Zipman know how effective it is?

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