Compoll, CA

[UnknownVeteren]

(hmmmmm).......ahhhh. Maybe they should create a system with stamina. Where the person does not slow down jumping, rather loses stamina, like in dod (day of defeat). I'd rather that then now.

[rizzuh]

zimzap wrote..

101% can't vote so the poll is wrong. You round instead of posting incorrect polls. Maybe I was wrong by going so far and attacking your personally but in the back of you mind you always remember who is hosting you.

Rounding is the only thing you can do. Irrational numbers happen all the time. Even though I despise USAToday's polls, they are a good reference. CNN.com also rounds. Their current poll has 17.63% represented as 18%. Assuming they had percentages like 17.5% and 82.5%, they would also read 101% in total in their display.



I am thankful to CS.net, but I don't hold back because of it. Dual berettas, the LAW, the new models (CS 1.0), Survivor, Torn, Siege, Vertigo (and I host the creator of this map), the power of the AWP pre-1.1, the uselessness of auto-sniper rifles, the slow walking speed, etc.



The difference is that while I may express my personal dislike for these items I don't outright say CS is dying and start flaming anyone involved with CS and CS.net. To be fair, I assume these items mean less to me than jumping, or whatever from CS 1.4 that sucks, does to you. That's just the luck of the draw, I guess.

[Shifty_Eyes]

I hate when people like zimzam taint a belief because we think... similar views.



I remember when 1.3 came out. I got used to it quickly, and I quite enjoyed it.



When 1.4 came out, I was all gung-ho. I was like "FINALLY NO DE JUMPING WHORES! NEW SPECTATOR VIEWS! NO JUMPING LIKE AN IDIOT!"



So I played. I headshot my roomate 4 times in a row full-autoing an AK. I blinked, kept playing, and watched the kills. Headshot, Headshot, HEadshot, nonheadshot, headshot, headshot... etc.



It was crazy, I looked at the console in disbelief. Almost 90% of the kills were headshots. We werent hacking, I know most of the people I was playing with personally. I have tried SO hard to like this patch, but I just cant. I lag more, my FPS is garbage now, trying to use the pistols to kill someone is a LOT harder. Explain to me the reason jumping with a PISTOl is inaccurate, but I can jump with a rifle fine? Thats just stupid.



The game is already only using 6 guns, this just makes it worse.



BTW, although they arent great, I LOVE the dual berettas. I think it would be easy to make them better. Decrease cost, make 9mm rounds do slightly more damage.

[SapphireDarkness]

Edited by [user="20322"] @ [time="1020136250"]

Its amazing, really it is, people don't realize that the headshot box is almost FIXED now. I want to aim at the head and hit the HEAD not the shoulder. People just have a hard time comprehending that the head makes up a part of the body. And a pistol would be inacurate in mid air because belive it or not your arms move when you jump and land, not to mention that you can't AIM a pistol in mid air, in fact i doubt you can see it, both in real life and simulated in the game.



On another note the solution to the jump should have been that once you jump, can't jump again in a certain amount of time. As opposed to once you jump your runing speed slows down. Like the time it takes you to return to normal run speed should be how long before it takes you to make another jump.

[Saitoh Hajime]

Edited by [user="26824"] @ [time="1020136822"]

Mmm… 1.4…



The same bickering goes on every release. New versions of CStrike come along, and POW: Petitions, flames, spam and the such are unleashed. Fingers are pointed, comments are made, and everyone gets under each other's skin. Release day is like a double-edged sword for the CS-Community: On the one side of the new releases, there are changes in the Game that are in the best interest of the majority of the Community (usually) and the Majority would rejoice. Then there is the minority, which become the aggressors of the Community, resorting to actions stated above, or even worse, CHEATING. lame.



"What possible point does he have to make?"

"Is he trying to start yet another flame war between the Majority and Minority?"

"Quick, break his legs!"



My point, good friends, is quite simple. CStrike is made up of a very deep Community, and I do believe that now more than ever. It is this Community that keeps CStrike going. It is the Community, that is so realistic and so alive, which keeps us coming back for more. It is the Community that brings out such emotions to such as anger and rage.



The CS Community .



I know that some of you must agree with this theory, and thank you (w00t!). Those of you who disagree can go right ahead, but before you respond to this, I ask you, what is the point of responding? If it isn't the CS Community that brings you back to the new releases, and it isn't the new changes that you may think suck so much bring you back, then WHAT DOES? WHY ARE YOU STILL READING THIS? WHAT POSSESSES YOU TO KEEP ON COMPLAINING ABOUT SUCH A QUALITY GAME WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR SO LONG?



YOU , good sir/miss, you too are part of the Community .



Not only will you respond to this 1.4 release, but also all the others with such distaste and disdain. However, you are here to stay, no matter what you say. You may leave for a few months, but trust me; you'll be back to check up on this good community. Each new release, you will come back, download it, play it, interact with it, and then you will very much be a part of this Great Community.



And I do not see this game faltering in its popularity, much less disappear into oblivion.



I praise and applaud all of you who have stood up and defended this great Game and Community, through thick and thin. I also praise rizzuh for his diligent and consistent work to help bring the news, community, and game into one nicely bundled package of a website. And I hope to see you all in the sight of my scope in the nearby future.



P.S. - Before you all go bashing rizzuh and claiming that he is biased, don't forget who it was that brought you all the constant news, not to mention the mirrors for actually downloading CStrike of which you are currently complaining about. Meh heh heh…



Now go away… I'm off to play de_chateau…



Long live Counter-Strike!



|300 j4!



*distant backround music plays*



...



...why can't we be friends...

[SapphireDarkness]

isn't Hajime spelled hajeime?

[Shifty_Eyes]

"And a pistol would be inacurate in mid air because belive it or not your arms move when you jump and land, not to mention that you can't AIM a pistol in mid air, in fact i doubt you can see it, both in real life and simulated in the game."



I dont know, maybe YOU dont realize that jumping and firing an assault rifle is a hell of a lot less fucking accurate than jumping and firing a pistol.



Hajime, I am actually thinking of quitting CS now. I have tried to like 1.4, but I dont. The headbox is close to fixed, yes, the GUNS arent. The stupidity of the headshots now are just awe inspiring. You can just auto the AK and headshot everyone in the damn level. What happened to AIMING your guns? I want more accurate guns. I want to fire a gun, and have the bullets not teleport everywhere, and to not follow some odd pattern and break physics laws.



This game needs to choose, DM, or realism. Too many people say "Now the jumping is more realistic", and then say "we cant do 'x' change, it makes the game less fun!".



Choose. Do you want Rogue Spear realism? Do you want Quake fun? Do you want a BALANCE of the two? 1.3 was basically a balance.



I'd like to see that "which do you like better, 1.3 or 1.4?" poll. Im curious as to what the community thinks.

[mouth]

Shifty_Eyes wrote..

Choose. Do you want Rogue Spear realism? Do you want Quake fun? Do you want a BALANCE of the two? 1.3 was basically a balance.

Oh absolutely. 1.3 had the "quake fun" of shady command/physics/hitbox exploits, weapon behavior that was (and still is) pure fantasy, players barging in everywhere like rambo, and very little teamplay. On the other side, it had the Rogue Spear realism of.... having weapon models that look like real-world weapons. They supposedly fired bullets too, but only if they're like the one used to kill JFK.



500 pound Richard Simmons reject on one scale and Callista Flockheart on the other. Yep. Looks like "balance" to me.



Fuckhead.

[Shifty_Eyes]

I said MORE.



It had the realism of real looking guns, and real looking people.



The physics of guns and people were un-realistic.



This is called balance. Its fun because it allows things no one could do in real life, but you have guns that real people use.



And maybe you were just totally awful at Rogue Spear, but I'd snipe with the AK. I'm sure you just went for the first gun you found with 100 round clip and were horrified when running and firing it didnt work.

[mouth]

What you said is what i quoted. It's kind of hard to pretend you said something else when the original post is right there for everyone to read, tool.



1.3 had TWO ties to reality, and both were purely cosmetic. They had no bearing on gameplay, which had squat for realism. 1.3 had an unacceptable amount of bullshit headshots as anyone can tell you, so there isn't much use in pretending that it was some golden era for CS.



And if you'd like to clue me in on what relevance your last paragraph had, feel free.

[SapphireDarkness]

Oh god no PLEASE don't leave shifty eyes! EVERYONE will miss you! Honestly you think ANY of us care? Riding the cs gene pool of you just proves the talent of the cs team

[Herks]

I love how people call headshots bullshit.. I get lots of headshots. This comes from me aiming for the head. Its what good players try to do. Yah, ocasionally i spray and pray and get a headshot, but that is the luck factor found in anygame. But if you make a concious effort to aim for the head, then you get a headshot. Yay.

[Shifty_Eyes]

Headshots arent bullshit, but when you just open up with an AK and get 3, and this happens CONSISTANTLY, something is wrong. Maybe if they made the guns fire where one aimed them, not on some odd random hit-direction.



"1.3 was basically a balance."



See that 'basically' word? Im saying it had more than 1.4, which has none really.



I agree Herks, some of us aim for the head, and are rewarded with headshots. Rizzuh was correct when he stated you cant hope for a headshot shooting at 70 yards, the chances are astronomical.



"Oh god no PLEASE don't leave shifty eyes! EVERYONE will miss you! Honestly you think ANY of us care? Riding the cs gene pool of you just proves the talent of the cs team"



I was responding to a post that said no-one would leave. And frankly, what good are YOU to the "cs gene pool"? CS is what it is because of everyone who plays it, even those awful cheaters.

[mouth]

Shifty_Eyes wrote..

"1.3 was basically a balance."



See that 'basically' word? Im saying it had more than 1.4, which has none really.

"1.3 had TWO ties to reality, and both were purely cosmetic. They had no bearing on gameplay, which had squat for realism"



See the word "squat"? 5 letters, 1 syllable. What part of it failed to reach you?