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[Aibohphobia]

Shifty_Eyes wrote..

"pardon me, but people who whine and whine about guns being "unbalanced" are consistently the ones who can't use them well. When was the last time you heard some UT fan running around the server complaining that flak cannon users are lame because the gun is too good? Come on, everyone can use the same weapons, so don't complain."



I was once playing Inferno (as CT) and I was 4 and 10.

I decided that I hated the DE, and was so disgusted with my play, I would use the DE.



By the end, I was 20 and 12. I have screen shots of this somewhere, and I hated it. I did something similar with the AWP, where I killed an entire team I was losing to twice. Well, 4 out of 6 of them.



I CAN use the guns, it just makes no sense to me that a gun that costs (with ammo) 10 dollars more than a SIG228, and 200 LESS than the Dual berettas should be:

Dead accurate.

Do 45 Damage a shot.

Instant HS.

Go through walls.

Reload VERY fast.



Now, i can live with the AWP, just in numbers it gets rather... like a standoff. Who stops camping first.

I went 56-12, 39-4, and 17-2 tonight using the awp/deagle combo. It may not be "logical", but it is "fun". And as long as I'm not exploiting a bug, people should be able to use any guns they want to play cs. It's not really a matter that can be argued (rationally).

[xa3r0]

NR:26 You can do rapid fire with the AWP if you change weapon fast...

in the controls setup latest used weapon is (i think) Q

hit it twice and AWP is reloaded!



fire q q fire q q fire q q know what I mean??



BUT) THE AWP IS NOT ZOOMED IF YOU USE IT (BUT



//Xa3r0^

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FlyingBuzz is LAME!

[SinaC]

Rofl, if you think these people cheat then you've obviously never seen OGC/xqz2 or any other aimbot in action... It snaps to people instantly, and there is no compensation for recoil, your cross hair never goes off the person's head. It also means that ALL newbies don't use cheats, which is good.

[MidgetPanda]

that video reall shows what CS is all about. That stuff inspired me as well. Right after I watched it I went on some aztec server and went 18-1 with AWP/USP before getting banned. Got it on Demo too!

[vapor (v4p0r)]

my fav clip is with vesslan on prodigy.. the shots were fairly decent but i like his camera work =O

[Shifty_Eyes]

I like Da Bears....



well, because he loves the Berettas, not because he's particularly good or anything.



And Aibohphobia, I'm not saying its an exploit or a bug or anything, I'm just saying its what I disliked about 1.3 CS. I wish these videos would show SCOUT kills, GLOCK kills, BERETTA kills, SIG228 Kills, hell, ANY of the harder to use weapons. I realize they wont use these guns (short of the Glock when they dont have enough for a better pistol) in a clan match, but I'd like to see someone like Ksharp go Glock happy, or Da Bears Berettaing away.



This video shows what was so great about CS.

Too bad 1.4 demos will be:



*guy has AK*

Crouch, headshot.

Still crouching, headshot.

Aims gun and ground, fires, headshot on other side of level.

[nix]

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The Return wrote..

that movie is pure BS. its sad to see what has come of cheater....i mean counterstrike. its plain to see that EVERYONE except ksharp was hacking. there are at least 2 instances where FB went off right in front of the guys and they were NOT blinded. also, people are just walking out in the open not even checking around, just automattically looking where someone is going to come out. and lets not forget how the crosshair just happens to end up on the head ALL THE TIME. 98% of all the shots in the video are headshots. now i know when people are good, when theyre getting lucky and when theyre plain hacking. ive played against the BEST, (WEW and CK3 at milLANium), and ive been playin since beta 2, so dont even think about callin me a newb. i got one word for that video...PATHETIC.YUP agree dude PATHETIC........

[dampv]

The return is pretty funny ^^.



So NiP cheated at CPL aswell, and of course, ksharp is playing in the same clan as cheater, because your saying that da bears is cheating aswell.



And the return, your a newb :p.



And obviously you have'nt played against "the best" because those guys ARE the best.

[buq.]

rizzuh, why when and why did you include a retardomagnet in the source code of your site?

[shoryukeN]

there are sure alot of newbs on csnation :)

[Shifty_Eyes]

*Laughs* you can imagine the guys hacking at CPL, eh?

It's not like they'd scan for cheats or anything. Most of those kills were either insane skill or insane luck. All of us have probably seen about 75% of those kills at some time.



Ah, i remember my first tripple kill nade...

[The Return]

ok, after further review, i have come to the conclusion that ONLY the following people were cheating: SK|Blue, SK|Xenon, SK|bds, SK|Vicon(do you see a pattern here?) Nordic|Swift, and Skelett-djpoppz. all the other people either have skill, luck, whatever. but the people i just mentioned were without a doubt cheating. to address the comment about me not playing the best, well, lets see, ksharp is arguably the best CS player ever, hes in 3D now, but he used to be in X3, which most of their memebers came from CK3, which i played personally at milLANium. and to all you people who called me a noob, i can bet my life that i have more experience with CS then ALL of you. now i think you all should watch frag or die again and watch the people i mentioned above. i will give you all some notes so that you all can see what im talking about. oh and to whoever said that ALL these movies were recorded at LANs, thats BS, just look when the players hit TAB and check their latency. that said heres what to look for:



SK|Blue-headshot with a deagle, nothing special except if you watch the slow replay, blue shoots BEFORE his crosshair is even close to the guys head, obvious aimbot.



SK|Xenon-another headshot with a deagle, but if you notice on the slow replay, Xenon is tracking the guys head thru the wall, obvious wallhack and aimbot.



SK|bds-wow, another headshot with a deagle, but if you notice, dbs NEVER checks around, hes all out in the open, then he just runs inside, automatically aims up and headshots the guy. now i dont know how you noobs play, but rambo isnt the style to be using in CS. also, if you look real hard, you cant even see the guy dbs shoots until he falls down flat, wallhack and aimbot.



SK|Vicon-as soon as the video starts, a FB goes off in front of him, you may not notice it because hes got the hack to block out the flashbang, then as vicon is near the bomb site, when hes shooting people, you can see the crosshair snap from head to head, FB and aimbot.



NordicSwift-headshot with a zoomed awp, nothing special except when you watch the video, by the time the gun fires, the guys head isnt even in the crosshair anymore, and no, thats not because of prediction or netcode, its aimbot. also, towards the end of that same firefight, swift is tracking a guy thats on the lower level down the steps, that of course no one could see, unless youre wallhacking.



skelettdjpoppz-first off, as soon as the video starts, a FB goes off and poppz doesnt get blinded, hmmm. later on in that same firefight, poppz somehow knows theres another guy running behind the box, even thou poppz never saw him run there, wallhack.



before you guys say im full of sh*t or whatever, i think you all should know that i used to be in [myg0t]. so unless youre all willing to admit that youve used the cheats as well, you have no clue what to look for.

[Shifty_Eyes]

Im curious, but do you know what anticipation is?



I've had numerous AK headshots where I fire one shot just as Im rounding a corner. ITS CALLED LUCK.



Think about it, these are 20, 30 demos out of HOW many games these people have played? Play the numbers, my friend. The way this game does inaccuracy, you are going to have BIZARRE headshots all over the place.



I've seen scout headshots through the double doors in aztec.

Not watching anyone, just through them.



If you'd been watching (my roommate) in a demo of JUST THAT SHOT, you'd obviously think he was cheating. What you dont see are the 2193891823712 other shots that he fired through there that didnt hit anything.



"NordicSwift-headshot with a zoomed awp, nothing special except when you watch the video, by the time the gun fires, the guys head isnt even in the crosshair anymore, and no, thats not because of prediction or netcode, its aimbot. "



If the guys head wasnt in the crosshair, what kind of a godawful aimbot was it? Aimbots stay ON THE PERSON. Thats why they are AIMBOTS.



If you're so experienced a player, why dont you know that flashbangs DONT ALWAYS WORK.

I've stood on one looking at it and I wasnt blinded.

[OlSpazzy]

The Return, it's sad that you seem to take some sort of pride in admitting you were a member of myg0t. That also explains your idiocy. I'd like to point out the fact that a lot of what you've said is rather retarded, you being a veteran cheater and all. How can someone be using a wallhack and not have it show up in their demo (unless it was HLTV recording)? As for the flashes, in 1.3, a flash landing on a decal or going off wrong would simply not work. How can anyone that has played CS for a long time not be aware of that? I guess you cheat so much that you've never played without the FB hack to know they don't always work.



As for SK|bds, the guy made the video for chrissake! I really doubt anyone would be stupid enough to include a demo of them cheating in a compilation highlighting highly skilled CS players showing off what they do best. Oh, and best of all, it's pretty obvious what little understanding you have over the concept of using the sounds in CS to your advantage. Yes, it is actually possible to know where someone is by listening for them before they are even visible. Duh!

[Shifty_Eyes]

Thanks for mirroring my post Spazzy