review: realbot ai

[vapor (v4p0r)]

PODbots are too easy so maybe its good that RB aims really good now

[Darkhorse]

[AnML]-Esquanku wrote..

i used to use realbot, but i reckon the best bot out of all is POD bot.



but anywayz bots suck ass.

POD bot is very real.

The bots literally make me jump*

with fright

Spooky.

[Darkhorse]

*not literally

[MikeJ]

Btw this was only a PREVIEW release, i no for sure Tub is hard at work on the next super secret version of realbot

[Darkhorse]

yse.

[rizzuh]

Thud wrote..

Review? In-Depth?

This is unsubstantiated rhetoric that reeks of favoritism - for another bot. Look - the next time you want a review of something this complex and subtle - get someone with some maturity, who has the ability to apply insight to the task. The statement "....Internet Mode - randomly come and go, I'm not sure why?..." is one good example of quickly written fluffy crap. There's no insight or thought in that statement, it's lazy and pretentious. I think it's time the critics had critics on CSN! Start asking your article posters to put some work into their articles.

LuftWaffle has reviewed 5 bots thus far, he's a bot expert as far as they come. Some people make think the internet mode is very useful, others might think that a better bot is more useful. Usually when someone says "fluffy" it indicates that we are bias for RealBot. Clearly not the case, you should get a critic to examine your use of words so your statement makes sense.



We review the AI and, in some cases, the extra stuff that comes along. I stand by Luft, because Pod Bot is better in both areas compared to RealBot. I basically don't get what you're even trying to say. All you did is type some random flames and interject some hyphens. If anyone would like to speak up with factual complaints in the review, then responsibility should be taken by us -- otherwise it is a review, not no-opinions-hour at your local bar. RealBot is not complex and subtle, it's a bot. I do not care about the subtlety and neither does anyone else. Subtle actions are left to be admired by fanboys, how it plays is what CS players judge.



Also, this may be a "preview release," but it's a public version and thus has been reviewed as the latest version of RealBot. RB 1.0 got the same score.

[MikeJ]

I agree with the combat review. This bot just doesn't fight realistcly. But its navigation is far superior to pod. For one realbot choses random paths, i know where POD goes every single round, and i know where pod is going to be every single round because of static waypoints. Because this is just a "preview" verison there is a lot lacking. The bot personality system isn't coded in yet. The camp system isn't coded in yet (bot acually camps at places it learns), even chat isn't coded in yet.



I have talked with stefan about combat alot, and I'm going to see if I can't point out some usefull suggestions. Acually its a pretty large list, this bot doesn't aim or react anywhere near like human. Niether does POD but pod is more fined tuned and uses "teamplay" (on DE maps CTs will assume camp waypoints, vice versa).



Unfornutaly I think realbot released too little too late. But there will be other projects :)

[[SA]Astral (Moonfrost)]

Even though this is a public version, it's mostly out to give the RB fans something to do. As MikeJ says, lot of features are yet to be implemented. Because CS 1.4 will be out in a couple of weeks or so (right?) Stefan and Tub decided to wait 'til 1.4 goes public until he'll start his work on the bot again, 'cause the 1.4 code may differ from the 1.3, so it's obviously better to wait...



The bot has some sort of AimBot (metaphorically speaking), just go on spec mode, and watch when a terror fires his AK at a CT. If he misses, the gun wont have any recoil. That's why it is so damn accurate.



Actually, the best way to kill the bots is with Flashbang, they'll simply stay still like mofos, waiting to get shot. If the accuracy gets toned down a bit, it should be comparable to the in in ver 1.

Sure, you can set rb_skill to as low as "0", but even then, I fail to see any difference between a newbie bot (skill 5) and a lousy one (skill 0). I've heard their reaction time is lower the more skillful the bot is, but I never ever noticed this.



The navigation system rocks though, best I've ever seen when it comes to bots, even though I think they should take more diverse paths, like the underpass on Dust (they seem to be fond of the hallway), etc.



All in all, a great bot with far too superior skills.

[Mofo_Chink69]

my podbot wont work so i need to get a new one but i heard that podbots are really good especially from the rating that this site gave it

[The12apist]

Bots are only good for one thing... 32/32 Knifes Only.

[Kurlie]

Hey LuffWaffle, great job on the article and I enjoyed it very much.

[[SWE]Twiggy]

first of all: great job luftwaffle!

too bad you but all the work to this CRAPPY bot....

well...it was crappy when i had it..i really hope its improved...

i mean, they where so xtremely unreal..ounce, they got a headshot with a xm 1014, on assault..i was on the little housetop an he just came round the containers and boom! two shots, then the bastard gave me a headshot...now would that happend i real life?

i say: FAT CHANCE! (ps. SWEDEN ROX!)

[MikeJ]

Default skill level for realbot is 1, meaning inhuman like reflexes and aim. Changing this to about 5 or so makes a nice difference. But combat still needs work.

[Itsfuntolose69]

I HAVE A PROBLEM, i used to cheat but i quit after i joined CS nation. But now i have been recently been being detected for OGC 7.x. I though i deleted all the files but apparantly not, so i installed a new CS directory just yesterday and i was just banned from a server for cheating and i dont know what its detecting.

Im sorry to post this even though it has jack to do with the topic.

Your help would be appriciated. If you have any idea what the problem email me at Wolves311@hotmail.com

[gRyPhOn]

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Bots would be fun if I had a fast enough internet, mine (aol) is the shittist, gayest,....................I hate Aol.



The rage toward AOL is so intense



{P.S.-bots are good if ure just starting

out (being n00bish) and u suck!}