It doesnt matter what anyone here says, if you like a map, you like it, and vice-versa...
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Thank you Rizzuh for your rather impartial opinion. My guess is you still play de_dust?
/Mike laughs... REALLY REALLY LOUD.Comment
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Rizzuh,
Whilst I respect the effort you put into your excellent site, I have to laugh at your contradictory views of news posting.
You recently slated oracle (UKT) about an article that was 'Factually Incorrect', but does this rule not apply to you? It would appear not, as you demonstrate by stating DE_Survivor is "quite possibly the worst map ever put into CS". This is NOT fact, this is your opinion. Believe it or not, people don't want to read your opinion on a news page, they want to read news (i.e. facts).
Opinions are for the comments pages, but this is where I must expand my rant.
This news post has generated nothing more than a moronic response from many people. Some posts were informative, but others were simply slagging off the work of a mapper, who spent many hours/days/weeks creating a map that (s)he hoped would bring pleasure to others.
If you were to pay for a product, you have a right to compain if something is not right. When somebody spends countless hours of their time, and not receive any payment, you should be gratefull. If you don't like it fine - that's your opinon - keep it to yourself.
I read many people complaining that there are not many good maps being released at the moment, this should come as no surprise with all the idiots that post comments on CSN (and the CS forums) that slag off maps. So grow up and instead of bitching the 'DE_somemap' sucks, why not make you critisms constructive and give some positive feedback.
For anyone still reading my ramblings, personally my only dislike is with CS_747, but this isn't due to a problem with the design of the map, it a problem with the way the hostages tend to get stuck on the map. Maybe this can be made better, by altering the map? maybe it's the hostage AI that needs tweaking? I don't admit to understanding about what causes the problem, but I do know that despite the problems, the map CS_747 does NOT suck, the map is well laid out and only spoit by the hostage getting stuck issue.
3DMike: FWIW I am a fan of survivor, it's one of the favorites on our weekday lunchtime LAN battle, and given the problems with CS_747, I'm sure DE_747 will be a very welcome addition, as we will never see another hostage getting stuck again.
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Damn rizzuh, you piss me off. I agree that survivor isnt a good map but it is sure as hell not the worst. I dont know why you are so obviously mad at 3DMike here because that man has made good and playable maps e.g. de_predator.
I say bring back de_foption, cs_arabstreets, cs_docks, cs_siege with the apc and let for gods sake cs_militia stay in cs forever.Comment
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I do have a comment.... why do you people defend it? Its not like you made it... Its all just opinions anyways, even if you did make it, there are always critics...Comment
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Edited by [user="6048"] @ [time="1011916442"]
Nice Map! When will i be able to download it?Comment
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rizzuh wrote..All of 3DMike's map suffer from good looks and horrible gameplay. Survivor is hardly an exception.
are you on meds? his maps have the BEST gameplay.
these engines have been THREE-DIMENSIONAL since QUAKE came out (about 5 years) - why are all the maps still almost DOOM-LIKE TWO DIMENSIONS?! italy, dust, office, ... almost every cs map! a notable exception being oilrig, which has nice vertical gameplay.
but 3d_Mike (like his name says) is interested in mapping in THRE DIMENSIONS - so you can be attacked from above and below. and he does a great job of it (survivor and predator being 2 great examples).
so, sorry man, but you are about as wrong as you can get
joe (beta tester on survivor - my name is in the credits)Comment
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[SA]Astral (Moonfrost) wrote..SneakyBob wrote..
I had the pleasure of playing CS long before de_dust reared its dry and sandy head.de_dust = deathmatch poop
I was thinking if reporting that comment, but then I realized people are allowed to have their own opinions. However, saying that de_dust is DM poop is morally wrong, since most u guys have learnt to play CS on that map. de_dust : very good map (my opinion)Comment
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i like survivor.there.that's my opinion.de_747 looks good.wait til it comes out.de_deadlock looks great too.:)
keep it up!Comment
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Survivor suck big time. When playing 1 on 1 until someone else joins in it sucks. Survivor is waaaay to BIG !!!!
But then 3DMike other maps are quite good and it would be unfair for Rizzuh to label all of 3DMike's work as lousy.
RIZZUH, if you are so great why not make your own maps, at least I set waypoints for PODBot. I am not the official setter TAZ but i going to show him what i can do soon.Comment
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How i rate the retail maps.
Legend:Excellent
Fun
Okay
Sucks
Sucks BIG TIME
oilrig=Fun
tundra=okay
assault=excellent
italy=excellent
dust=excellent
dust2=fun
747=okay
backalley=fun
estate=Sucks
Mliltia=fun
Office=okay
Aztec=Excellent
Seige=okay
cbble=excellent
Inferno=sucks
Nuke=sucks
Prodigy=excellnent
Storm=sucks big time
survivor=sucks big time + lame briefing
torn=okay
train=okay
vegas=okay
vertigo=fun
Speaking of "3D" combat, assault has it all. Ts can attack you from the roof your left or right even your back if you enter the T base. Not convinced, go thru the big garage and you would be death in seconds.Comment
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to 3dmike,
dont let these a.ssholes deter you from making great maps you already do! keep it up! i know many people who see counterstrike for what it truly is (ie atmospheric realisitc real life locations) and would love for you to create maps of such good quality as yours in the future!
GO 3D MIKE !!! :)
(oh, and why isnt your site working?)Comment
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'Instant A$$hole' said it all. Thanx dude.
www.lanmaniax.com is down dude to massive downloads. Itll be up asap.Comment
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Edited by [user="1966"] @ [time="1011977830"]
3dmike
I LOVE SURVIVOR! Do not listen to the disbelievers who would have their a$$e$ handed to them on a silver plate if they took my boys on in a game of de_survivior.
IMHO it has a lovely plot going on and a nice setting running all the way through. Sure I find the ice canyon a bit weird with its massive ice crystals, but I also love the creaky bridge, the nice over the water and the fact that 90% of the time I can leg it to the plane and snipe 6 people trying to get me!
Love the map and a new variation on a plane map would be sooo cool as I loved cs_747 - I still jump when someone pops up from behind a seat :)
Love the screenshots, and I sincerely hope that the cargo doors opening and the player dropping out can be rigged as a trap for unsuspecting newbs *LOL*
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Just downloaded DE_DEADLOCK as well - 3D_MIKE, you are a guru, a mappingmeister.
Deadlock looks just like the part of Amsterdam where my companies Dutch office is and being 1/8th Dutch makes me like it even more!
I also love the fact that you have used hostage models from one of the best guys around - [link url=http://gabor.cs-fusion.com/index.htm]Gabor.
More power to you my friend!
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*LSN*GN
*LSN* Le Soleil NoirComment
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LOL! GN are you trying to get us some challenges??
Looking at the comments, I'd say none of us like the same maps...I think survivor is great, and I think dust sucks....it's boring. I also like Storm, BUT IT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION!
Enjoy the maps you like, and put up with the rest.
3DMike, keep up the good work mateComment
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