For me, I find CS's strategy play more fun than DMing. Trying to outwit the enemy player, finding a spot where no one would suspect me, planting the bomb, and coordinating a strike with my teammates is a lot more enjoyable for me than rushing towards the enemy, hop-crouching and spraying wildly like a piss in the morning. The mental aspect of the game is why I play Counter-Strike. I don't need to hop around like a fool to do well. I plan and move with my team. This brain over brawn way seems to work much better than "rush, bunny hop, spray and pray" technique for me. Anyway, no where in my team strategy does, "hop around like a moron" fit in. Frankly a team doesn't shouldn't need to hop like a fool to win, they should win by working as a team. I'm glad that bunny hopping will be toned down, it might force people to work as a team instead of a lone deathmatcher.
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De|iriuM wrote..letz say u jump around teh corner and duck to improve accuracy but as soon as u do u see 5 enemy t's, but since teh jumping thing is implace u wont b able to move outta teh way quik... and u ppl that r making comments on how this is going to b one of teh best changes to CS eva... wait till u fucking play it then ull c it sux... in case u didnt realize by now im a beta tester so i kno my shit
precisly why I say your tactics are flawed. Good tactics is not equal to jumping around corners before you have a decent idea of what's there. You acted the fool and jumped around a corner into a death-trap. Good. Your stupidity got you killed, that's how it should be.Comment
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It really is quite tragic that the game as deteriorated to such an extent that jumping around EVERY corner, is the way most people play the game. CS is a bit of escapist fun for me, just like all the other games so i like to immerse myself in it, imagine i'm a counter-terrorist and work as a team with my fellow team mates. Unfortunately, unless you really have a group of like minded people and a server...you cant have this type of game. If the new jumping system means that no longer will i be cut down by someone 5 feet in the air as he comes round a corner, more power to it.
Sure cs was never about realism, but this will at least tone things down enough to make it more enjoyable for those of us who dont treat it as a race for frags, where the more jumping you do, the better player you are.
I congratulate gooseman and cliffe, for having the balls to stand up to the cs community and say "this is our game, and this is how we want it". While i still play cs and enjoy it (sort of) it really has become a bit of a farce, hopefully cs1.4/cz will be a step (in what i consider to be) in the right direction.Comment
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god... teh new jumping system isnt a bad idea... itz jus that they went too far... u should b able to at least jump once or twice w/o having to b slowded down a great deal... i think itz jus u guys r 2 much of newbs and r desperate for measures to b taken so u wont get pwned and agree wit everything that put limits on things other ppl do betta than u... wutz next there gonna take recoil out of CS? wait a min... theyve already done that in 1.4 wit teh para basically... gg cs iz turning into more of a newb fest (and yes i kno im violating my contract but who gives a shit?!)Comment
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btw i want wut i payed for... rite now as of 1.3 im getting exactly wut im paying for... i dont want alterations of teh games i want improvement... 1.4 is a fairly good release cept for teh jumping limit... teh jumping limit is worse than all these ppl make it out to b.. when they say it eliminated bunny hopping... bunny hopping waz nearly elminated in 1.3 to teh point where its not effective enough anymore to gain speed... i myself am i former bunny hopper (no i didnt use any scripts just teh special use of teh pattern of teh strafe keyz, mouse, and jump button) and i kno that bunny hopping waz almost perfectly reduced... i waz saddend by that change in 1.3 but i didnt complain cuz i kno that waz not how teh game waz supposed to b played... but jumping waz supposed to b part of teh game... for ova 2 1/2 years it waz... and now all teh sudden there jus jerking it rite out of cs?! come fucking on... 1.4 would of been great if not for that fucking jump limit... BTW when u jump and u land... u go half teh normal speed... jump again and u go half that... jump again u go half that... and eventually to teh point where ur jus jumping liek a jackass and arent getting anywhere... at least if valve waz goin to reduce teh use of jumping they could of reduced jumping accuracy even greater (which is exactly wut theyre doin in 1.4) letz look at 1.4z good side... teh new spectating mode if awesome... teh new anti cheat thing seems to b working... but hey... im gonna let u guys decide for your selves if teh jump limit iz gonna ruin an almost great releaseComment
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i rest my case..Comment
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Edited by [user="2738"] @ [time="1011794772"]
Just because you jump round a corner to shoot someone or jump out of the way of incoming fire doesnt mean that you jump around like a "moron" all the time, or that you are a "newb".
It also doesnt mean that its people's 1 and only tactic. Its A tactic, there are many.
You are all bangin on about it like it is the only thing ppl do.
kthxbye
Edit - As ive said b4 , i dont care about the changes, all im looking forward to is no cheats[ or not 1/2 as many] im just saying this thing about jumping because alot of you really must have the wrong impression about cs players if all you think jumping is - is for ppl with no skill and newbs. [ oh yeah , i forgot and "morons"]Comment
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Delirium I just went cross eyed trying to read your posts...
The fact is that they're going to implement this change like it or not, so you've got to adjust - just like the gameplay changes in every update, not everyone liked them, perhaps even most of the community left but they were replaced and CS is still here, just as popular despite or probably because of those changes.
ps.you will receive my bill for corrective surgery later in the weekComment
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Well ..
We'll just have to wait and see .. (still from reading reviews, imo the new version will stink) ..
But hey, we can always go back to 1.3 ? ;-)
Any idea when 1.4 is out anyway? .....
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For each new beta, there have been some whining about it .. but then again, there have never been this drastic changes to the gameplay, like this new version will have ..
Anyways, time will tell if this will be a 'it' .. or not
.. else there will always be 1.5 ..
But if I had bought CS1.0, I'd feel screwed by Valve >:|Comment
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