CS 1.4 Previews

**-PsYcH0-** · 01-19-2002, 11:08 PM

Edited by [user="9565"] @ [time="1011507424"]

Ok im not even going to quote the numerous nub comments that were made in this thread. most of you have to be retail because a seasoned cs player wouldnt say the things your saying.

The movement/weapons have been tweaked so many times its not funny, you adjust and you forget how it even was before

Who cares about the name of the weapons, theyre still the same weapons regardless, the movement thing i like, you shoot a fullyautomatic rifle while running sideways and see how accurate you are.

The first person spectator is great, if cheating does get through thats a great aimbot catcher.

Now i've only been playing since december of 99 (thats beta 4) and i respect the people who played longer, but these ppl that just pick up the game and act like its the end of the world GET A CLUE the game has been evolving from the start, personally this is the first time im excited for a release since i was disappointed at beta 6.

game on

AND STEAM IS FREE CANT YOU READ?!

**Highpinger** · 01-20-2002, 12:07 AM

amen

**jeff_beck** · 01-20-2002, 01:37 AM

i know its more realistic, but it sucks what they did with recoil. now all people are gonna do is crouch and burst everytime they get in a fire fight. fuggin boring. i luv straffin circles around someone.

/sighs

**Treize Khushrenada** · 01-20-2002, 02:34 AM

I think i can say we all love cs. So whats all the complaining about, you're still gonna love it. We all have our favorite beta where we felt cs was perfect and how we'd love to keep it like that for good. But sadly and more than not, thankfully cs isnt under our artistic control. I myself felt b5.4 was its peak and that b6 and on was an attempt by valve to help ease in the growing population of ppl just gettin started addicted to cs. And now it maybe the team feels they given the new people enough time to integrate and are goin to put back some of the important parts of the older betas, like aim, got aim? I look forward to no more ppl running and jumping around going full auto and getting headshots half the time.

**BigFooT** · 01-20-2002, 05:12 AM

Darklord wrote..

I really think it sucks changing the way you move around... we all know the style now, and then they change it - that's not nice!!!

And modifying weapon recoil? Sucks too... Well, the PARA perhaps will be more useable now, but what about the less-used pistols and the expensive snipers? Will they be remade or as useless as before? Again, we KNOW the game, and then they change it...

It's all too random I feel... I thought there was some standard that could be kept in C-S.

But! When ID made Q1 it was very playable game! There were many mistakes but i love this game. When ID made Q2. There was another movement but many people still playing Q2. And this MUST be happed with ALL GAMES. New version MUST has new "Easter Eggs"...

**HendriX** · 01-20-2002, 05:39 AM

Stop jabbing about the recoil and ask yourselfes when 1.4 is coming out??!?!?!?

**ShoNuff** · 01-20-2002, 06:35 AM

I dont give a toss about the new movement, recoil etc.

Im just glad they are sortin [ which looks to be a very good way of] the cheats out.

Ive heard here and there different stories about payment for STEAM.

I guess we wont actually know for deffo enless someone from valve or summit states either way.[or we wait till it comes out].I cant see them charging for it see-ing as most of the community is meant to be under 16 and therefore wont have access to a credit card.

**skyman** · 01-20-2002, 07:18 AM

i have a question: seeing as i am under 16 if i where a beta tester (i might be i might not be :P) then valve couldn't hold me to the terms of the contract because under british law (dont know about american law) a contract isnt valid if the signer isn't over the age of 16. is this true?

**-PsYcH0-** · 01-20-2002, 07:59 AM

now maybe im being an idiot but from what this says

From the Steam Link

As for "is this a subscription service"...

Have we asked anyone for a credit card? Has anyone paid for this service? Did we even ASK for a current CD key to prove you are an existing customer??? No. I will not get into more details about our direction until later as it has substantial impact on our future products, but be ready to listen. And more than anything, staying part of this beta will ensure you hear and see things before others do.

doesnt that say NO money?

**Mr. Clean** · 01-20-2002, 09:41 AM

Comment #24--->

And there is no Sig552 Comamndo.. There is Sig551 SWAT... And I remeber 2 more such bugs in CS 1.3.

Huh!? wtf are u on budy take a look see http://www.remtek.com/arms/sig/552/commando.htm

**Aibohphobia** · 01-20-2002, 09:44 AM

Edited by [user="3096"] @ [time="1011545150"]

skyman wrote..

i have a question: seeing as i am under 16 if i where a beta tester (i might be i might not be :P) then valve couldn't hold me to the terms of the contract because under british law (dont know about american law) a contract isnt valid if the signer isn't over the age of 16. is this true?

Interesting point . . . I wish I was in britain (well no, actually)

An another note: It would be very dangerous to play with the recoil for cs at this point, making guns much more accurate will make CS a game that requires much less skill to play, thus a much easier game to learn, thus a much more boring game. Personally having learned the best bursting techniques to every gun I'd hate to find out that the commando is now a faster-firing ak. And the aug a slower-firing colt. The whole point to the aug and commando are that they have zooms to help newbies shoot long range. From what I've heard from some of the testers the recoil has been so much reduced that the aug, commando and para are now owning people! What a change this would be from before: I can't remember the last time I saw someone in NiP or x3 buy an aug, much less a para!

In conclusion I can see reducing the accuracy of guns when jumping, but increasing the accuracy to the point that the only difference between the commando, colt, ak and aug is their rate of fire could be seen as a step deep into the wrong direction.

**Aibohphobia** · 01-20-2002, 09:47 AM

BTW, much of my worries about changes in recoil are based on the leaks from this guy: www.geocities.com/iudicium2001/tom9.html Now obviously cs1.4 is still in beta, just wanted to see what the community though about this.

**HendriX** · 01-20-2002, 02:17 PM

GAH!! Stop the jibberish whining about the recoil and the weapons beeing more acurate !! ITS GOOD!!!

**FLeK0** · 01-20-2002, 02:32 PM

hmm this will be good

i dont care about the weapon names, renaming them isnt a big problem.. :)

**Reizig** · 01-20-2002, 02:58 PM

The weapon thing is for copyright purposes. It was the same way for CS retail. Since valve sells the retail version, the companies who create the guns are allowed to demand royalties for using their guns names. So in the version they sell, they change all of the names to avoid this. I beleive that the AUG in the retail version was called the "Bullpup"...